(December 22, 2013 at 5:44 pm)Mr Greene Wrote:(December 22, 2013 at 5:07 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: You, I believe, are over-estimating what some christians need to 'believe'. I personally know christians who can't quote a single verse of scripture; yet they will doggedly defend poor, abused Jesus. All the evidence you compile amounts to wasted work with these yokels.It seems to vary between denominations and whilst the majority couldn't quote the bible if their lives depended on it, we do get a fair number who will make these references.
In any case the post in question referred to an atheist, (probably ex-baptist) who;
Quote: had a real problem with 'Theistic Evolutionists'This seems to be primarily an American viewpoint, and those who don't believe in Genesis as literal fact are viewed as "not true christians" and coming off that was the notion that Original Sin was the entire basis of christianity.
They thought that if you didn't accept that concept you would automatically become a deist, which obviously isn't the case.
The next catch is in Exodus as described, once that is dealt with the thing starts to crumble.
Actually, more often than not... it really comes down to, "Other Christians that don't agree with belief xyz which I believe in are not true Christians" which is what I find the most. It's primarily no true scottsman fallacy all over the place. But where I grew up, we had YEC, JH, Mormons and various other views. Some were into it literally, others "metaphorically" (AKA "Whatever sounds good that I want to believe to agree with things that sound good to my confirmation bias").
Hell... there's even evolutionary creationists now (that was a new one for me till a few years ago).
When you get on the subject of hell, some have changed to, "Well it's a spiritual hell... you don't really suffer.. you just aren't near god and that's bad enough." others are still literal, others are, "Well, hell is just something that is punishment for each person on what they fear the most." and things like that.
Probably the best part is that they can't all really agree on everyone's interpretation. Highly entertaining.
