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Genesis 3
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RE: Genesis 3
(December 13, 2014 at 10:56 pm)Natachan Wrote: Genesis 3:

And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

I was going through Genesis again for the lulz, and started thinking about this. The reason that god gives for kicking people out of Eden is that they could eat of the tree of life and be immortal. That they wouldn't need him "the man has become as one of us," God says. Nowhere in this is sin mentioned. Only fear and trepidation.

By the by, notice the plural "us" that is used. Who is God talking to?

There's also the implication that since the man does not have eternal life that he would have died anyway even without eating the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. So god is a liar too.
Verses 1-21 "mention sin" (and the repercussions of it) why would it need to be mentioned in every verse till the end of the chapter if a reader is being honest about what he is reading?

Verse 22 is a narrative statement. It tells why A&E had to leave the garden.

What's more verse 22 tells us that before the fell from grace A&E were immortal. In that God gave them permission to eat from every tree in the garden except from the tree of the knoweledge of Good and evil.

(That is why I can say we do not know how long between the end of creation and the fall of man, could have been a day month, or the bazillion years 'science' says evolution needed to catch the rest of the world up with how God created the garden and what was in it.)

Just in case you missed why they were booted wasn't because God feared they would become immortal as you surmised. God at the fall full filled his promise to end their lives as they knew them (immortal lives) and made them mortal. They had already proven themselves to not be trust worthy around trees with low hanging fruit, so they were expelled so they like the other two members of the trinity (the 'we' you were asking about) would not be immortal and have the full knoweledge of good and evil.
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Genesis 3 - by Natachan - December 13, 2014 at 10:56 pm
RE: Genesis 3 - by Silver - December 13, 2014 at 10:59 pm
RE: Genesis 3 - by Cyberman - December 13, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: Genesis 3 - by Silver - December 13, 2014 at 11:10 pm
RE: Genesis 3 - by Cyberman - December 13, 2014 at 11:14 pm
RE: Genesis 3 - by Jenny A - December 13, 2014 at 11:06 pm
RE: Genesis 3 - by dyresand - December 13, 2014 at 11:11 pm
RE: Genesis 3 - by tonyintheLight - December 13, 2014 at 11:52 pm
RE: Genesis 3 - by Tonus - December 14, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by Nope - December 13, 2014 at 11:52 pm
RE: Genesis 3 - by Minimalist - December 14, 2014 at 6:00 pm
RE: Genesis 3 - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 2:59 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 3:10 am
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RE: Genesis 3 - by C4RM5 - December 14, 2014 at 5:14 am
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RE: Genesis 3 - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 5:23 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by strawdawg - December 14, 2014 at 6:07 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by Natachan - December 14, 2014 at 7:49 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 7:53 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by Natachan - December 14, 2014 at 7:56 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 8:07 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by Natachan - December 14, 2014 at 8:14 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by Cyberman - December 14, 2014 at 10:03 am
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RE: Genesis 3 - by Nope - December 14, 2014 at 9:57 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by Tonus - December 14, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by professor - December 14, 2014 at 10:29 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by Chas - December 14, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by Natachan - December 14, 2014 at 10:36 am
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RE: Genesis 3 - by Tonus - December 15, 2014 at 6:43 am
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RE: Genesis 3 - by abaris - December 15, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by Cyberman - December 15, 2014 at 10:22 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by Thumpalumpacus - December 19, 2014 at 4:33 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by robvalue - December 15, 2014 at 6:47 am
RE: Genesis 3 - by robvalue - December 15, 2014 at 8:53 am
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RE: Genesis 3 - by Natachan - December 15, 2014 at 10:36 am
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RE: Genesis 3 - by Tonus - December 15, 2014 at 2:45 pm
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RE: Genesis 3 - by professor - December 18, 2014 at 7:55 pm
RE: Genesis 3 - by Minimalist - December 18, 2014 at 8:01 pm
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