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More atheist men than women?
RE: More atheist men than women?
(July 9, 2015 at 10:46 am)Holden Caulfield Wrote:
(July 9, 2015 at 10:30 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: You are incorrect.

And to prove that I am not just making that up, here's this from a Catholic site:

"No, the Church cannot change its doctrines no matter how badly some theologians may want it to or how loudly they claim it can. The doctrines of the Catholic Church are the deposit of faith revealed by Jesus Christ, taught by the apostles, and handed down in their entirety by the apostles to their successors. Since revealed truth cannot change, and since the deposit of faith is comprised of revealed truth, expressed in Scripture and Sacred Tradition, the deposit of faith cannot change."

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/c...-doctrines

Of course they like to claim that.  Yet the bible has changed many many times over the centuries.  So while Catholic sites will just claim they are "reclarifying the words" and atheist sites will claim "doctrine has changed" the fact of the matter is that this one tome that is supposed to emcompass all of christian faith HAS changed, at times MASSIVELY, over the centuries.  Now where are all these male catholic leaders getting their info if not from this massively changed document?  Remember Jesus never even wrote a damned word of thing to start with.  2nd hand of 2nd hand of 2nd hand of 2nd hand etc etc is this doctrine.  And therefore it changes quite often.  I could give you a whole SLEW of links if want but you probably don't want to see those.  Unless of course you can provide evidence these "doctrines" are actually from a divine source not the malleable bible.  That I'd love to hear.

You misunderstand what Church Doctrine is. The bible is not considered infallible Church Doctrine, and the Church existed before the bible did. A doctrine is a formalized teaching of the Church which cannot be changed. Doctrines are a fundamental truth of the faith (for example, that Christ is divine is a doctrine, that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ is a doctrine). There are many other practices which the Church does, teaches and believes which are not formally defined as doctrines. These practices are subject to change.

(In my own words, but here's the source: http://www.catholicbasictraining.com/apo...xts/1e.htm )
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Exian - July 6, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Iroscato - July 6, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by rexbeccarox - July 6, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by rexbeccarox - July 6, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Longhorn - July 6, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Metis - July 6, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Mr.wizard - July 6, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Longhorn - July 6, 2015 at 12:32 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Dystopia - July 6, 2015 at 12:35 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Saxmoof - July 6, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2015 at 12:37 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by SteelCurtain - July 6, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Longhorn - July 6, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 1:25 pm
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RE: More atheist men than women? - by Longhorn - July 6, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Longhorn - July 6, 2015 at 1:51 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Esquilax - July 6, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 2:21 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Longhorn - July 6, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Longhorn - July 6, 2015 at 1:32 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 1:42 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Mr.wizard - July 6, 2015 at 1:33 pm
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RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 1:29 pm
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RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Metis - July 6, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Longhorn - July 6, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 2:41 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Longhorn - July 6, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Ben Davis - July 8, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Ben Davis - July 8, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Holden Caulfield - July 9, 2015 at 10:26 am
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Holden Caulfield - July 9, 2015 at 10:46 am
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 10:57 am
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 6, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 6, 2015 at 4:14 pm
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RE: More atheist men than women? - by Holden Caulfield - July 7, 2015 at 7:09 am
RE: More atheist men than women? - by Catholic_Lady - July 7, 2015 at 11:49 am
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