Universe from Nothing?

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The Universe that we can measure and observe is one ruled by laws and order. The very smallest elements which we can study have ordered forms, and follow laws which allow us to predict many, though not all behaviors.

Order itself, law itself cannot exist on its own; it requires something of a higher order to give it. A legal universe requires God for its origin.

Yes, it seems counter-intuitive that a random UNDESIGNED universe would appear to intelligible to we who call ourselves sentient beings who can conceive of concepts like volition
and intentionality and creativity.

I think the most compelling aspect of the fine-tuning argument is not so much that we see stuff which theists maintain is deliberate (teleology)
...but that we can tell the difference between the deliberate and the accidental.

Between this;
Sand dune.


And this;
Sand sculpture.