RE: God's Love
June 15, 2020 at 4:37 pm
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2020 at 4:40 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 15, 2020 at 4:25 pm)UtilitarianDeist Wrote:Some people say many things, but the things that you've said indicate that you are a moral subjectivist. If you'd like to be a moral nihilist, I can help you with that too.
(June 14, 2020 at 6:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: He's already told us that rape, murder and pillage must be good, since it happens, and what happens can only be what gods want, and whatever gods want is good.
Some people would say that if everything is good then that's identical to nothing being good and that it's pretty much moral nihilism. So I don't understand why you would focus in on a specific subset of things that you deem to be awful. I'm talking about on an objective level. I accept that humans and society consider some things to be good and some things to be bad on the subjective level and they deem themselves to be better off with 'x, y or z'.
The way I see it is: to say that everything is good is just to say that we are in the best possible world. And if determinism is true we must be in the best possible world because if determinism is true we're in the only possible world.
Sure, it could also mean that we're in the worst possible world too. Hence my point about nihilism.
But if my views are correct then it's still objectively the case that God gets what he wants. And to me that's what good is. That's all.
There is no good, and no bad. It doesn't matter what a god wants or how happy it makes a god, because nothing makes anything good or bad to begin with.
Objectivist? Got you covered. Regardless of what a god does or doesn't want, things are truly good or truly bad.
Objectivity, subjectivity, and error theory are all cognitive propositions that make antithetical claims. God objectively wanting what it wants means jack outside of subjectivity.
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