RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
March 15, 2022 at 5:28 pm
(March 15, 2022 at 3:58 pm)Angrboda Wrote:He might assert revelation as many presups do. But it still requires a possibly corrupted mind to receive the message and interpret it.(March 15, 2022 at 2:58 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: You can play this game all day long about God having some hidden agendas, instead of looking at what God purportedly did and said. There is a principle called credulity, we assume things that appear to be so as indeed so, otherwise, we simply depart from reality.
God didn't say anything that is in the Koran. As to what God did, well you're still trying to futilely prove authorship along several dimensions. Regardless, assuming isn't knowing, and revelation is every bit as useless without first establishing the god so described exists -- not some similar god but that specific one. Can you do that? No.
(March 15, 2022 at 2:58 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: the 'heardening of hearts' verses you're alluding to only concern people who knowingly reject the islamic message, not people who made honest mistakes in reasoning, but I think you already know that.
Not the point, oh clueless one. God clearly provided the possibility that your reason may be corrupted, now you need to prove your reasoning isn't corrupted. How are you going to do that except through reasoning, which may be corrupted?
(March 15, 2022 at 2:58 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Show us the verse in the Qur'an that asserts that, I'll wait.
In fact the Qur'an asserts the exact contrary:
"Indeed, Satan’s schemes are ever weak." (4:76)
That's nice, we have one revelation from God that says that Satan rules on earth. You have a revelation from God that says otherwise. Now all you have to do is prove which one is correct. I'll wait.
Oh, and still waiting for evidence of fine tuning.
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Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM