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Former Ex-Gay Activist Admits Gay People Don’t Change
#21
RE: Former Ex-Gay Activist Admits Gay People Don’t Change
That you don't understand.
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#22
RE: Former Ex-Gay Activist Admits Gay People Don’t Change
(December 26, 2011 at 9:28 am)Epimethean Wrote: That you don't understand.
I'm waiting for your explanation.
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Your statements make it seem apparent that you believe that homosexuality is a disease which should be cured. That is a position of ignorance.
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RE: Former Ex-Gay Activist Admits Gay People Don’t Change
(December 26, 2011 at 9:38 am)Epimethean Wrote: Your statements make it seem apparent that you believe that homosexuality is a disease which should be cured. That is a position of ignorance.

If you want to call it that way.. I generally use a less hostile word, "abnormality".
Yes, that is exactly what I think that homosexuality is.
And well, it does not really matter what I think.
There are certain homosexuals, who do not want to be like that, obviously.
They want to be cured. But these ex-gay thing is obviously not really working.
So it's up to modern medicine to devise a means to provide a cure for these people.
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RE: Former Ex-Gay Activist Admits Gay People Don’t Change
They only want to be 'cured' because they have people like you telling them they're not 'normal.' If they were just accepted for who they are, they would have no desire to change.
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RE: Former Ex-Gay Activist Admits Gay People Don’t Change
(December 26, 2011 at 7:15 pm)Faith No More Wrote: They only want to be 'cured' because they have people like you telling them they're not 'normal.' If they were just accepted for who they are, they would have no desire to change.
Well, I do accept them for who they are. Refer to my posts above.
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(December 26, 2011 at 9:48 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(December 26, 2011 at 9:38 am)Epimethean Wrote: Your statements make it seem apparent that you believe that homosexuality is a disease which should be cured. That is a position of ignorance.

If you want to call it that way.. I generally use a less hostile word, "abnormality".
Yes, that is exactly what I think that homosexuality is.
And well, it does not really matter what I think.
There are certain homosexuals, who do not want to be like that, obviously.
They want to be cured. But these ex-gay thing is obviously not really working.
So it's up to modern medicine to devise a means to provide a cure for these people.
But just remember that something like that would likely open up a whole mess of ethical questions as the homosexual children of ultra-religious parents would be forced to take it against their will.
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RE: Former Ex-Gay Activist Admits Gay People Don’t Change
(December 27, 2011 at 8:02 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(December 26, 2011 at 9:48 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(December 26, 2011 at 9:38 am)Epimethean Wrote: Your statements make it seem apparent that you believe that homosexuality is a disease which should be cured. That is a position of ignorance.

If you want to call it that way.. I generally use a less hostile word, "abnormality".
Yes, that is exactly what I think that homosexuality is.
And well, it does not really matter what I think.
There are certain homosexuals, who do not want to be like that, obviously.
They want to be cured. But these ex-gay thing is obviously not really working.
So it's up to modern medicine to devise a means to provide a cure for these people.
But just remember that something like that would likely open up a whole mess of ethical questions as the homosexual children of ultra-religious parents would be forced to take it against their will.
Homosexual children?
Didn't know that the ages had fallen that low, but there is nothing ethically wrong there. The homosexuals who are already adults can take them if they so please, or leave it.
But I think if this homosexuality in children thing is real and can actually show itself in some manner, yes, parents who wish to do that, should do that by all means.
I personally would encourage families to do it.

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RE: Former Ex-Gay Activist Admits Gay People Don’t Change
Mehmet....Facepalm

So, Armenians, Jews, Arabs, and teh Gayz... oh, and "The West"..in it's entirety.....the list is getting impressive. Am I leaving anyone out?
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RE: Former Ex-Gay Activist Admits Gay People Don’t Change
(December 27, 2011 at 8:13 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Homosexual children?
Didn't know that the ages had fallen that low, but there is nothing ethically wrong there. The homosexuals who are already adults can take them if they so please, or leave it.
But I think if this homosexuality in children thing is real and can actually show itself in some manner, yes, parents who wish to do that, should do that by all means.
I personally would encourage families to do it.
Yeah. You're probably confused by my use of the word "children." I probably should have said "minors" or "offspring." Because technically, people reach the age of majority (I know it's that way in the US, and, judging by Wikipedia, it's like that in most of the developed world) at the age of 18. People tend to start feeling sexual attraction around the ages of thirteen or fourteen, while they're still legally considered minors. I have known some people who have been kicked out of their homes as a direct result of coming out to their parents.
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