Yahweh: The worshiping of a Volcano / fire GOD of War.

[Godscreated]

The lunacy of the exodus tale is palpable to all but the dumbest of fundies and G-C is one of those. Before you worry too much about the rate of march you might try to give a little thought to the animals allegedly along for the walk. Sheep and goats graze with sheep preferring grass. This does not lead to a great deal of speed.

Of course, in Sinai



the last fucking thing you have to worry about is grass to begin with which means that the animals starve to death but, before they starve to death the lack of water would have done them in!

In fact, the only practical route across Sinai was the Egyptian's Way of Horus which had some re-supply stations scattered along its length so that travelers, (military or otherwise) would not drop dead in droves.

Ah, but the "Israelites" were warned to avoid the northern route because of the Philistines... which brings to us the spectacle of a god who can beat the tar out of Egypt but shits his pants at the thought of facing off with the Philistines....who weren't even there yet!

Really, G-C, you should be embarrassed to fall for such utter bullshit but I know you well enough by now to see that you will simply dismiss reality and cling to your fucking fairy tales even harder.

I do not put them going through the Sinai, Jerel al Lawz is in Arabia, an since you seem to think that I have no issue with water you need to reread the posts. My main point is Israel's survival and in that area water is of the greatest of needs.

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@TheJackel, your volcanic field has not been active for nearly 10,000 years, that means Moses and the Israelites were about 6,500 years to late.

[TheJackel]

I do not put them going through the Sinai, Jerel al Lawz is in Arabia, an since you seem to think that I have no issue with water you need to reread the posts. My main point is Israel's survival and in that area water is of the greatest of needs.

Basically you have nothing to argue with other than trying to suggest "water" is proof Jerel al Lawz as magically Mt Sinai.. That is a pretty weak position as it has zero bearing on whether or not they worshiped a volcano GOD. And sorry, Jeral Al Lawz is definitely not Mt Sinai.

@TheJackel, your volcanic field has not been active for nearly 10,000 years, that means Moses and the Israelites were about 6,500 years to late.

I didn't specify a specify field.. There are several fields available.. Hence, which field are you speaking of? The subject does not rest with any particular volcanic field... Worse yet, you have no evidence to even show 600,000 people making said trek.. The evidence for that would be quite substantial. And yet there is a total lack of evidence for that.

http://mormonmatters.org/2010/05/16/ques...he-exodus/

However, it's a good chance that exodus is based on actual eruption event some time in the regions history. What's interesting is that Exodus has a strong connection with the Volcano eruption of Santorini.. That eruption happened sometime around 1500 BC to which is right at the same time Exodus supposedly happened. There is a very high probability that the Exodus was a story either influenced by this super volcanic eruptions or actually stemming from it directly. Moses likely didn't exist, and exodus from Egypt told as is in the bible likely never actually happened. ... And it fits the time period..... And it's interesting how people worshiped volcano GOD's during this time period.

[Minimalist]

I do not put them going through the Sinai, Jerel al Lawz is in Arabia, an since you seem to think that I have no issue with water you need to reread the posts. My main point is Israel's survival and in that area water is of the greatest of needs.

They start ( if they had started at all ) in "Goshen" which would have been in the Delta. The Easern Desert



is just as shitty as Sinai. I don't see anything in your bullshit tale about them flying over it.

[Shell B]

How about this? Is this your blog? http://ohmyvolcano.blogspot.com/

To reiterate, jack.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

How about this? Is this your blog? http://ohmyvolcano.blogspot.com/

To reiterate, jack.

Shit! I hope not,that blogger is certifiable.

[TheJackel]

How about this? Is this your blog? http://ohmyvolcano.blogspot.com/

To reiterate, jack.

That's actually not my blog. That belongs to a fellow under the nick FOGHORN.. I cite his blog under the supporting evidence link.. In fact, I met him here:

http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/vi...sc&start=0

And he tried to contact me via message after I didn't respond much to his requests on the forum:

From:
Quote message
Subject: Hello
Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:02 pm
Gosh you do play hard to get! I don't mean to scare you. I just found your post about Yahweh being a volcano god and thought I should make contact seeing as I've been doing my own research on the subject. I'll not write too much for now as the last time I wrote out a message to you the thing never sent. Here's my blog...

http://ohmyvolcano.blogspot.com

But email me here [email protected]

I could use to help in debates as this subject seems to bring out the worst in people.

my reply:

From:
Subject: Re: Hello
Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:49 am
Sorry I have been hard to get.. ") My source deals mostly with the bible itself Smile I read your blog site and it sites much of the bulk of what I have in regards to the subject.. But here are some tibits Smile

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1...i_4016484/

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...lcano.html

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How about this? Is this your blog? http://ohmyvolcano.blogspot.com/

To reiterate, jack.

Shit! I hope not,that blogger is certifiable.

Oh come on now, you were so hoping it was lol. That's a pretty precious statement from someone who not but a bit ago stated the following:

I think your posts are rubbish and can't be bothered with you.

This forum is like a Christmas that keeps on giving. Sorry, but I found that rather quite amusing

[Godscreated]

Basically you have nothing to argue with other than trying to suggest "water" is proof Jerel al Lawz as magically Mt Sinai.. That is a pretty weak position as it has zero bearing on whether or not they worshiped a volcano GOD. And sorry, Jeral Al Lawz is definitely not Mt Sinai.

@TheJackel, your volcanic field has not been active for nearly 10,000 years, that means Moses and the Israelites were about 6,500 years to late.

I didn't specify a specify field.. There are several fields available.. Hence, which field are you speaking of? The subject does not rest with any particular volcanic field... Worse yet, you have no evidence to even show 600,000 people making said trek.. The evidence for that would be quite substantial. And yet there is a total lack of evidence for that.

http://mormonmatters.org/2010/05/16/ques...he-exodus/

However, it's a good chance that exodus is based on actual eruption event some time in the regions history. What's interesting is that Exodus has a strong connection with the Volcano eruption of Santorini.. That eruption happened sometime around 1500 BC to which is right at the same time Exodus supposedly happened. There is a very high probability that the Exodus was a story either influenced by this super volcanic eruptions or actually stemming from it directly. Moses likely didn't exist, and exodus from Egypt told as is in the bible likely never actually happened. ... And it fits the time period..... And it's interesting how people worshiped volcano GOD's during this time period.

Search all the volcanoes in Saudi Arabia I found that none erupted from around 8,000 BC to 200 AD, this would eliminate volcano worship in that area during the writing of the Bible.

[Faith No More]

FOGHORN

I believe that is the guy that they were trying to determine if you were him. However, it's entirely reasonable that you knew that name would point to the perpetrator making it sound as if you are not him, allowing you to keep this new account even though you are FOGHORN.

Inconclusive...need more information.

[TheJackel]

FOGHORN

I believe that is the guy that they were trying to determine if you were him. However, it's entirely reasonable that you knew that name would point to the perpetrator making it sound as if you are not him, allowing you to keep this new account even though you are FOGHORN.

Inconclusive...need more information.

Actually you are me...errr I playing a prank on my fellow forum members. Yep, it took me to be all this to infiltrate and plan this diabolical scheme! In fact, I am everyone here as I have a multiple personality disorder with my solipsism. At any time it is only I that exists.

Sincerely,

FogHorn, Faith No More, Padraic, TheJackel, Shell B ect ect ect..

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Search all the volcanoes in Saudi Arabia I found that none erupted from around 8,000 BC to 200 AD, this would eliminate volcano worship in that area during the writing of the Bible.

That's great, not only is that wrong but also not relevant as none would be required... You see, Volcano God worship more than likely predates Moses, and the people in that region would already know which were and weren't volcanoes "mountains of GOD".. And we only needed one Eruption in that region of the world. And it so happens to have been a Super Volcano that even the Chinese had records of. Egypt also had records of this eruption. Hell, there is even a good chance that the story of Exodus is backwards and the people, likely not 600,000 went the opposite direction to go see it. The point I'm getting at here is that it's not relevant to people worshiping volcanoes as there are plenty of active volcanoes in that region of the world to which would have been known.

These Saudi volcanoes have erupted numerous times in the last several thousands of years, The visual result of all these eruptions can be seen clearly in Google Maps. Historical and geological records suggest that there have been some 21 different volcanic eruptions on the Arabian Peninsular with the most recent being in 1937 in North Yemen.

Pallister, J., McCausland, W., Jónsson, S., Lu, Z., Zahran, H., Hadidy, S., Aburukbah, A., Stewart, I., Lundgren, P., White, R., & Moufti, M. (2010). Broad accommodation of rift-related extension recorded by dyke intrusion in Saudi Arabia Nature Geoscience, 3 (10), 705-712 DOI: 10.1038/ngeo966

And sometimes there is the difficultly of determining old eruptions deals with new eruptions covering up the evidence of the old ones. Especially in regions where they are not very well studied.

[Godscreated]

FOGHORN

I believe that is the guy that they were trying to determine if you were him. However, it's entirely reasonable that you knew that name would point to the perpetrator making it sound as if you are not him, allowing you to keep this new account even though you are FOGHORN.

Inconclusive...need more information.

Actually you are me...errr I playing a prank on my fellow forum members. Yep, it took me to be all this to infiltrate and plan this diabolical scheme! In fact, I am everyone here as I have a multiple personality disorder with my solipsism. At any time it is only I that exists.

Sincerely,

FogHorn, Faith No More, Padraic, TheJackel, Shell B ect ect ect..

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Search all the volcanoes in Saudi Arabia I found that none erupted from around 8,000 BC to 200 AD, this would eliminate volcano worship in that area during the writing of the Bible.

That's great, not only is that wrong but also not relevant as none would be required... You see, Volcano God worship more than likely predates Moses, and the people in that region would already know which were and weren't volcanoes "mountains of GOD".. And we only needed one Eruption in that region of the world. And it so happens to have been a Super Volcano that even the Chinese had records of. Egypt also had records of this eruption. Hell, there is even a good chance that the story of Exodus is backwards and the people, likely not 600,000 went the opposite direction to go see it. The point I'm getting at here is that it's not relevant to people worshiping volcanoes as there are plenty of active volcanoes in that region of the world to which would have been known.

These Saudi volcanoes have erupted numerous times in the last several thousands of years, The visual result of all these eruptions can be seen clearly in Google Maps. Historical and geological records suggest that there have been some 21 different volcanic eruptions on the Arabian Peninsular with the most recent being in 1937 in North Yemen.

Pallister, J., McCausland, W., Jónsson, S., Lu, Z., Zahran, H., Hadidy, S., Aburukbah, A., Stewart, I., Lundgren, P., White, R., & Moufti, M. (2010). Broad accommodation of rift-related extension recorded by dyke intrusion in Saudi Arabia Nature Geoscience, 3 (10), 705-712 DOI: 10.1038/ngeo966

And sometimes there is the difficultly of determining old eruptions deals with new eruptions covering up the evidence of the old ones. Especially in regions where they are not very well studied.

Better grasp that last straw all the rest have broken.