Why there are so many denominations

[Faith No More]

Drich, have you found anyone here that you believe actually wants to seek this understanding of Christianity you are providing?

[The Grand Nudger]

You really felt the need to respond to me by way of engaging in exactly the same sorts of bullshit that my post addressed in the first place? Troll.

You clearly need to believe that someone is at fault, and that this someone is not you. Too bad for you. Many here have "followed the path" they no longer believe, so you dismiss them. That we even engage you in a discussion is proof positive that we are willing to receive a message (isn't that exactly what we're doing when we have a conversation). Your message has failed to have an impact, so you dismiss us. If this is not your job, you seem to be attempting a hell of a run at making it so. Speaking of your job, btw, you are going to sit there and tell me that you couldn't explain to me in five minutes or less how your fridge works, and what the differences between yours and your competitors is? Your company must have one seriously shitty sales pitch. This is exactly the situation your faith seems to be in to me.

This is all predictable and tired apologetic shit. For a person who harps on about their faith and explanations being so different from that of others, they sure as hell seem to be exactly the same as that of those others you incessantly criticize. Maybe you should work on that? Before you even begin to ask me how (again), just save yourself the trouble. You claim to have worked out the mysteries of the cosmos and god all on your own, but are incapable of working out a way to communicate the "knowledge" you have learned, or how a fridge works? I call massive bullshit.

[Drich]

Drich, have you found anyone here that you believe actually wants to seek this understanding of Christianity you are providing?

If they wish to let it be know they are free to do so themselves.

[The Grand Nudger]

So that would be a no then, eh? But you're holding out hope. Well, you're entitled to that, aren't you? I'm holding out a similar sort of hope, that someone will be able to effectively communicate their thoughts on the matter of any actual god. Someone, anyone.........

Wish in one hand, shit in the other.

[Faith No More]

If they wish to let it be know they are free to do so themselves.

I'm just curious as to why you're looking here. It's not that you can't. You are more than welcome to, however, wouldn't you have a better chance of spreading your message to actual Christians? In other words, I think you have thinly veiled your mission to save heathen souls under the guise of spreading a better understanding of 'biblical Christianity' as you call it.

[NoMoreFaith]

The dude spent so long in bible study, I think he's trying to convince himself it was a worthwhile endeavour.

The problem is, you can study the twilight novels for 20 years if it floats your boat, but it doesn't make them true.

[Drich]

You really felt the need to respond to me by way of engaging in exactly the same sorts of bullshit that my post addressed in the first place? Troll.

You clearly need to believe that someone is at fault, and that this someone is not you.

Not true I have Identified my own short comings twice and even asked how to over come them.

Too bad for you. Many here have "followed the path" they no longer believe, so you dismiss them.

Not at all, I simply ask; was it the path of religion/denominational belief, or a path based on biblical belief?

That we even engage you in a discussion is proof positive that we are willing to receive a message (isn't that exactly what we're doing when we have a conversation).

I would say 1/2 want to argue for the sake of arguing and smashing the will of a well meaning person. The other 1/2 have various reasons to interact. Some do indeed have serious questions and serious concerns. But most seem be looking in one way or another for some chink in the armor of christianity to reinforce what it is they already believe.

Your message has failed to have an impact, so you dismiss us.

If I did, I would not address your concerns line by line. I have only dismissed two people on this web site as a whole, and not even to the point where no redemption could be found. I do dismiss personal attacks conjecture and the general speculation, and try and focus pertinent issues.

If this is not your job, you seem to be attempting a hell of a run at making it so.

You misunderstand It is my job to compel those seeking the biblical truth. just not to make compelling enough to change the minds of those who do not seek biblical truth.

Speaking of your job, btw, you are going to sit there and tell me that you couldn't explain to me in five minutes or less how your fridge works, and what the differences between yours and your competitors is?

The depth of the frozen range, plus three types of reverse cycle heat, (Heat or cool in the same box) the ability to maintain with in 3*F of set point, with in 8 to 24 hours in a no power situation, under normal usage/door openings. all the while going down the road from something the size of a transit express to a fully loaded semi trailer, rail car or even sea going container.

Your company must have one seriously shitty sales pitch. This is exactly the situation your faith seems to be in to me.

I think this sums up our problem completely. You are looking for a sales pitch and I am providing technical data.

Understand I am not here to pitch you anything. I am here to show you how to fix what is broken in your ex-system of belief. IF you indeed want it fixed.

This is all predictable and tired apologetic shit. For a person who harps on about their faith and explanations being so different from that of others, they sure as hell seem to be exactly the same as that of those others you incessantly criticize. Maybe you should work on that?

If it seems the same then their is a reason. We share a common thread of truth.

Before you even begin to ask me how (again), just save yourself the trouble. You claim to have worked out the mysteries of the cosmos and god all on your own, but are incapable of working out a way to communicate the "knowledge" you have learned, or how a fridge works? I call massive bullshit.

Straw man much?

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If they wish to let it be know they are free to do so themselves.

I'm just curious as to why you're looking here. It's not that you can't. You are more than welcome to, however, wouldn't you have a better chance of spreading your message to actual Christians? In other words, I think you have thinly veiled your mission to save heathen souls under the guise of spreading a better understanding of 'biblical Christianity' as you call it.

I do answer questions on a Christian forum as well, have done for the last 4 years. Most of the people there are of the same school of thought that i am so there isn't much that needs to be said. Their are a few crazies that poke their heads up from time to time, but the real interest is when a Muslim or former christian comes in and stirs the pot. Unfortunately the mods on that web site have made it their mission to preserve peace rather than allow an atmosphere that resembles one like this. Even if people were actually learning.

The biggest problem I have with organized religion is the need to preserve a certain atmosphere, over the needs of people. "We" are supposed to be a hospital for the spiritually sick, not a show case of saints. There was one in whom I respected for his efforts that was ban. After repeated appeals to the Mods I decided to seek him and people like him out. That is why I focus my time here rather than there.

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The dude spent so long in bible study, I think he's trying to convince himself it was a worthwhile endeavour.

The problem is, you can study the twilight novels for 20 years if it floats your boat, but it doesn't make them true.

What makes it true is the full fillment of the promises to the believer. Not what I think i have gleamed from my own efforts.

[Faith No More]

The biggest problem I have with organized religion is the need to preserve a certain atmosphere, over the needs of people. "We" are supposed to be a hospital for the spiritually sick, not a show case of saints. There was one in whom I respected for his efforts that was ban. After repeated appeals to the Mods I decided to seek him and people like him out. That is why I focus my time here rather than there.

Well, I find it admirable that you are against the organization of religion as I find it to be more about power than anything else. A new question for you now. If you were to be really successful in spreading your version of Christianity, how would you prevent it from becoming one of the organizations you are against?

[Drich]

The biggest problem I have with organized religion is the need to preserve a certain atmosphere, over the needs of people. "We" are supposed to be a hospital for the spiritually sick, not a show case of saints. There was one in whom I respected for his efforts that was ban. After repeated appeals to the Mods I decided to seek him and people like him out. That is why I focus my time here rather than there.

Well, I find it admirable that you are against the organization of religion as I find it to be more about power than anything else. A new question for you now. If you were to be really successful in spreading your version of Christianity, how would you prevent it from becoming one of the organizations you are against?

I did not say I am against organized religion. I just have problems with some of their "showings of faith." Preserving an image over helping people is a big one. Biblically based Christianity is not unique to me. Most Non-Denominational sects of Christianity adopt this method determining direction. some have met with more success than others. but speaking where the bible speaks and remaining silent where the bible is silent is the ultimate goal for most.

To answer your question if I were placed in a position of leadership and the goal was to prevent people from perverting a specific brand of christianity what would I do?

Teach those who wanted to be taught and allow those who wanted to break away the freedom and help to do so.

Why? because we are commanded to Love the Lord with all of our being and to love our neighbor as ourselves. Not to worship as Drich commands.

[Reforged]

I did not wake up one morning and decided to come here and start arguements as some have suggested. I have been working on the exegessis of the bible for the last 10 or more years. I am here because I am in a position to give what some of you are looking for.

You didn't reference the additions each "prophet" and "disciple" made. If they made additions whats to stop them making changes? Infact wouldn't it be extremely probable that over 2000 years a great deal many changes would be made to the extent it'd distort the original message beyond recognition?
Remember I'm not asking what you believe, I'm asking you what is probable. What is more likely, a text remained largely the same after much tampering by many different people, religions and civilizations over two millenia or that as a result it changed to become very different from its original?