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RE: Obama care
July 23, 2012 at 5:31 pm
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(July 19, 2012 at 5:23 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: (July 19, 2012 at 5:20 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: It did but considering my brother has four kids now I think its rather too late...
Oh right, you're talking to him.
Ah, so the fact of your stupid brother, who really should have a goddamn vasectomy but has the cherished right to be a complete dumbfuck, justifies an argument against societally supported healthcare?
What's next?
An argument against funding police because people commit crimes anyways?
Be reasonable.
Yeah, you kind of missed the entire point that I actually thought healthcare was a good idea as long as those factors are considered and our mistakes are learnt from but whatever.
Oh and I was kidding when I made the reference to my brother. I actually agree with you in that respect... but it doesn't change the fact you don't get to call him stupid. I do though, thats my right. Needless to say if you ever did say that infront of me you wouldn't be able to say anything else for quite sometime... because I'd break your fucking jaw. Some things you just don't say to a man about his family without needing to.
Easy mistake though, right? :-)
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RE: Obama care
July 23, 2012 at 5:54 pm
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(July 23, 2012 at 5:10 pm)Manowar Wrote: How's this: Hold people accountable for their health.
Sure, still doesn't address the single mother with narcolepsy or the completely healthy, very athletic 30 year old male that spontaneously develops testicular cancer.
You aren't special, you aren't invulnerable. Better hope something like that never happens to you.
(July 23, 2012 at 5:10 pm)Manowar Wrote: No, you don't want that you guys are too busy bleeding for those people who drive costs up.
Of course I am, dumbass, she's my girlfriend.
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RE: Obama care
July 23, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Manowar, you have to face that a lot of expensive treatments are for people who had no choice in suffering their particular ailment. Diseases and the like don't discriminate between the rich and poor, so why should the healthcare system?
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RE: Obama care
July 23, 2012 at 6:12 pm
How about this:
Your tax money for ObamaCare is stretched out so your money helps everyone equally. That way you can only think about the dying children and poor you're helping. Then you can shut the fuck up.
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RE: Obama care
July 23, 2012 at 6:13 pm
(July 23, 2012 at 5:10 pm)Manowar Wrote: How come people who drive costs up don't get blamed by you guys himmm?
Guess who else drives up costs?
The uninsured.
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RE: Obama care
July 23, 2012 at 6:13 pm
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(July 23, 2012 at 5:54 pm)Jaysyn Wrote: Better hope something like that never happens to you.
Don't worry. He'll just follow in the footsteps of Ayn Rand. Once she needed to suck on the government teet, her "values" got dumped faster than an aging wife of a Republican "family values" politician.
(July 23, 2012 at 6:13 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Guess who else drives up costs?
The Health Insurance Companies who serve no value added purpose as a useless, parasitical middleman
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RE: Obama care
July 23, 2012 at 6:15 pm
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(July 23, 2012 at 5:10 pm)Manowar Wrote: Plus on page 3 of this thread CD said i am not far off.
Please don't mistake that for me agreeing with you.
(July 23, 2012 at 6:13 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (July 23, 2012 at 6:13 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Guess who else drives up costs?
The Health Insurance Companies who serve no value added purpose as a useless, parasitical middleman
Yeah, them too. 
Implicit in my question was the assumption that the middlemen would remain middlemen.
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RE: Obama care
July 23, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Well i am complaining about certain people not ones who get sick through fault of their own
The uninsured do drive costs up No doubt with a few exceptions like me who NEVER goes to the doctor no matter what.
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RE: Obama care
July 24, 2012 at 8:15 am
(July 23, 2012 at 8:05 pm)Manowar Wrote: Well i am complaining about certain people not ones who get sick through fault of their own
Is this the new Republican "welfare queen"?
Give the Republicans their due. They're great at generating or deflecting outrage. "Pay no attention to the Wall Street traders and Big Banks who wrecked our economy and have gotten off with a bailout to boot. Don't worry about the hundreds of billions of dollars in tax cuts for the wealthy that produced the worst record of job growth since the Depression. Forget about the trillion dollar war in Iraq that Bush lied us into. Think nothing of the fact that we're going to be cleaning up the mess Republicans made while they had unchecked power for two terms. Look, look, over there, a fat guy eating Twinkies, and he's going to be covered by Obamacare!" 
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RE: Obama care
July 24, 2012 at 9:55 am
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2012 at 10:06 am by Manowar.)
Deist, you got me all wrong I am not a Republican, Independent actually and I voted for Obama, sorry ot disappoint you. I just don't like being forced to pay for something i will NEVER use and i am not rich, not even close. You just don't listen. I could not stand Bush and i di not vote for him. if we did not go to Iraq health care is this country would probably be free
I want to ask another question will Obama care have deductibles or is everything included? I think the health insurance before Obamacare you had to pay extra but not sure
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