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Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!
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RE: Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!
"Moses" didn't lie....the people who invented "Moses" fucked up.

Subtle difference.
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RE: Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!
(6th August 2012, 09:04)catfish Wrote:
(6th August 2012, 09:02)NoMoreFaith Wrote: But what about the talking donkey!

Shrek?

No, he described himself as an onion, not as an ass!

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"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains (no matter how improbable) must be the truth."

--Spock
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#13
RE: Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!
(6th August 2012, 09:02)NoMoreFaith Wrote: But what about the talking donkey!

If Eddie murphy can make a 'dunkey' talk then I do not see it as such a big stretch for the God of creation to do the same.
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RE: Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!
Eddie Murphy exists.

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See the difference?
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RE: Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!
(6th August 2012, 15:19)Drich Wrote:
(6th August 2012, 09:02)NoMoreFaith Wrote: But what about the talking donkey!

If Eddie murphy can make a 'dunkey' talk then I do not see it as such a big stretch for the God of creation to do the same.

You don't? Seriously?

Eddie Murphy made the donkey talk through the magic of pre-recording his lines for later lip-synching with an animated CGI puppet. Preplanned electronic ventriloquism.

The god-powered donkey in the story somehow achieved its own voice and the capacity to articulate it in understandable human speech patterns. Mythological magic, the same sort of narrative device that can do anything from turning heroes to stone at a glance to swallowing the Sun as part of the final battle for the world. Or if none of that floats it for you, it's the same sort of narrative magic that made Dumbo fly.

There is a huge and important distinction between fact and fantasy. Survival in the real world suggests you learn to recognise it.
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens



Spending your life waiting for the messiah to come and save the world is like waiting around for the straight piece to come in Tetris.  Even if it comes, by that time you've accumulated a mountain of shit so high that you're fucked no matter what you do.



Remember, if we don't sin, poor old Jesus died for nothing.
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RE: Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!
IT'S most unlikely that Moses lied,simply because it's almost certain he did not exist. He and the Exodus are almost certainly myth.

Modern archaeology shows that the Jews did not invade Canaan, and kill the Canaanites, that the Jews WERE Canaanite and part of a mass migration after the collapse of the Mesopotamian empire in the early 13rth century bce.Nor is it likely that the Davidic empire existed,although it seems there my have been "a house of David"

The Book of Exodus claims SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND Jews left Egypt in the Exodus. At that time, the entire population of both Upper and Lower Egypt was around 2 million.. A reasonable person might think some literate person would have noticed at the time and written something down, but nobody did. (as far as I am aware so far)
Man is not so much a rational animal as a rationalising one.
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#17
RE: Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!
I don't see how this is a contradiction. Jesus only changed Moses' law.
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#18
RE: Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!
Added to which, Egypt controlled trade routes all over Canaan, meaning that those thousands of Jews would still have been in Egyptian territory after that business of the plagues and drowning the Pharaoh's army.

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It's a bit like that old comedy skit (Spike Milligan, I think, or possibly Benny Hill) which showed a prisoner against a wall and about to be shot by firing squad; he quickly makes his escape over the wall and drops down to the other side - where another prisoner is standing in front of a firing squad.
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens



Spending your life waiting for the messiah to come and save the world is like waiting around for the straight piece to come in Tetris.  Even if it comes, by that time you've accumulated a mountain of shit so high that you're fucked no matter what you do.



Remember, if we don't sin, poor old Jesus died for nothing.
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RE: Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!
Quote: "a house of David"

One of your compatriots, a fellow by the name of George Athas, has done an in depth study on the Tel Dan inscription and come to the conclusion that bytdwd is a place name. It refers to a location, not a dynasty. It refers to a person in the same sense that Rome is derived from Romulus and Athens from Athena. In other words...local mythology.
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RE: Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!
(6th August 2012, 11:59)Drich Wrote: No. The Law of Moses would coinside with God's expressed will. (which it did for the time and people the Law of Moses was given.) Subsequently, that is why the law of Moses is known as The Law of Moses and not the complete Law of God.

Read your statement above please (emphasis mine). Remember Yeshua's words? "...but from the beginning it was not so." So Moses did not coincide with God's will...
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