Poll data relating to racism by party

[Ryantology]

That's because democrats are fucking right.

Just because you cling to the side of wrong like moggots to a carcass doesn't mean others are amiss in saying what is right.

Democrats aren't right. They lie and they distract from the current economy, the nearly $16 trillion of national debt, and the 8.3% national unemployment rate. Barack Obama promised to cut the national debt, but instead added another $5 trillion to it. Barack Obama promised to reduce the national unemployment rate to 6% by the end of his term. Our unemployment rate remains above 8%....and just because you cling to the propaganda like flies on shit doesn't mean that what you're saying is right.

You know what, though? If the Republicans cared that much about the economy, they would focus on that and shy away from attempting to legislate morality, which turns off huge numbers of people and only damages their more mainstream policies.

That's why I don't really fear the Republicans. As long as they are so consistent with their schizophrenic absurdity, they're going to scare away more fence sitters than they attract, and their time is running out. The rising generation in America is much more politically liberal than what came before it. American conservatism itself is not going anywhere, but the current, virulent form is very thankfully living on borrowed time.

[A Theist]

Democrats aren't right. They lie and they distract from the current economy, the nearly $16 trillion of national debt, and the 8.3% national unemployment rate. Barack Obama promised to cut the national debt, but instead added another $5 trillion to it. Barack Obama promised to reduce the national unemployment rate to 6% by the end of his term. Our unemployment rate remains above 8%....and just because you cling to the propaganda like flies on shit doesn't mean that what you're saying is right.

You know what, though? If the Republicans cared that much about the economy, they would focus on that and shy away from attempting to legislate morality, which turns off huge numbers of people and only damages their more mainstream policies.

That's why I don't really fear the Republicans. As long as they are so consistent with their schizophrenic absurdity, they're going to scare away more fence sitters than they attract, and their time is running out. The rising generation in America is much more politically liberal than what came before it. American conservatism itself is not going anywhere, but the current, virulent form is very thankfully living on borrowed time.

I disagree. Americans are becoming more moderate and less liberal. A poll conducted in eight critical swing states show that many voters have left their party affiliations with the Democrat party leading in the amount of defections since the 2008 presidential elections.....

Republicans down - 79,000
Democrats down - 800,000
Independents up - 486,000

Independent voters are more concerned with jobs and the economy than they are with public policy issues. Those issues are more of a concern to the hard left and to the hard right which serve to galvanize the political bases. It's the left that on its way out.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-ma...32150.html

[CliveStaples]

With a confidence level of .90, none of the numbers are really comparable. They are all practically the same values.

Your brain is sexy.

CS, will you ever post something that is not leading?

The sample sizes involved determine the width of the confidence intervals--i.e., the margin of error. For example, with the interracial marriage question, since we're talking about propotions, that means the margin of error is about .03 at a confidence level of .90. The margin of error is much smaller for some of these questions--the p-values for some are lower than .01.

Tiberius either doesn't know about how confidence level and width of confidence intervals work, or didn't bother to find out what the sample sizes were before he stated that "none of the numbers are really comparable".

Apparently, you were impressed by his answer. You must know a lot about statistics.

[jonb]

Your brain is sexy.

CS, will you ever post something that is not leading?

The sample sizes involved determine the width of the confidence intervals--i.e., the margin of error. For example, with the interracial marriage question, since we're talking about propotions, that means the margin of error is about .03 at a confidence level of .90. The margin of error is much smaller for some of these questions--the p-values for some are lower than .01.

Tiberius either doesn't know about how confidence level and width of confidence intervals work, or didn't bother to find out what the sample sizes were before he stated that "none of the numbers are really comparable".

Apparently, you were impressed by his answer. You must know a lot about statistics.

No, even if what you were saying was true, the questions would have to be exact, a term like 'black pushy people' can easily be misinterpreted by someone glancing at a question not seeing the significance of black, and giving an answer, and 0.1 would only need 1 in a thousand to do that.


Clive: You seem to constantly make the same mistake, you think as you know the equation you have the answer 1+1=2 but if the terms are erroneous, it does not matter about the maths. For instance one herd of cows plus one herd of cows makes one herd of cows, true the herd might be larger, but you put the two together and you get one.

[CliveStaples]

No, even if what you were saying was true, the questions would have to be exact, a term like 'black pushy people' can easily be misinterpreted by someone glancing at a question not seeing the significance of black, and giving an answer, and 0.1 would only need 1 in a thousand to do that.


Clive: You seem to constantly make the same mistake, you think as you know the equation you have the answer 1+1=2 but if the terms are erroneous, it does not matter about the maths. For instance one herd of cows plus one herd of cows makes one herd of cows, true the herd might be larger, but you put the two together and you get one.

But we're not trying to infer whether everyone had the same (or similar) understanding of the question; we're trying to infer what proportion of people would give a particular answer.

[jonb]

But we're not trying to infer whether everyone had the same (or similar) understanding of the question; we're trying to infer what proportion of people would give a particular answer.

Just as long as you are not trying to infer what was meant by that answer, I suppose you are on reasonable ground: But what is the point of doing that if it is devoid of meaning?

[cratehorus]

So, what you're saying is...... the reason why less than 0% of black people vote republican, is because they're stupid and/or gullible?

It’s now official…at least according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. Among black voters, President Barack Obama is beating his Republican opponent Mitt Romney by 94 percent to 0 percent.

http://www.eurweb.com/2012/08/mitt-romne...vote-poll/

[Angrboda]

Pushing aside methodological issues, I suggest the point was that the myth of greater racism on the right is just that, a myth. I attended a similarly canted presentation on abortion recently that showed, despite the vocal representation of a slender minority of extremists, on the whole, both the left and the right are very close on the abortion issue. The stereotypical pro-life Republican is just that, a stereotype, and doesn't reflect actual views.

[Tiberius]

Pushing aside methodological issues, I suggest the point was that the myth of greater racism on the right is just that, a myth. I attended a similarly canted presentation on abortion recently that showed, despite the vocal representation of a slender minority of extremists, on the whole, both the left and the right are very close on the abortion issue. The stereotypical pro-life Republican is just that, a stereotype, and doesn't reflect actual views.

I once commented on some stats that show 65% of the tea party believes abortion should be either totally legal or legal with limits.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-7126-po...#pid142146

[Tempus]

I once commented on some stats that show 65% of the tea party believes abortion should be either totally legal or legal with limits.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-7126-po...#pid142146

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