Fuck This "Xtian Nation" Shit!

[Lion IRC]

yes... convincing the ignorant third world that there is a skydaddy that will bring them out of their misery and crappy life.... after they die... -.-'

Christianity is declining in Europe... is declining in the US.... I can only assume it's declining in Canada (any canadians out there?); it's declining in Australia, Japan is a crazy place...
The rise comes from Africa, South America.... awesome gain!

Religion always triumphs among the stupid. They are the most easily impressed.

Are you referring to the Chinese?
There are now more registered Christians in China than there are members of the communist party!

BTW religion is not declining in .au

"No religion/Religion Not Stated''
2006 - 30.6%
2011 - 22.3%

[Minimalist]

Are you referring to the Chinese?

I'm referring to anyone who chooses fairy tales over reality.

[Darkstar]

Are you referring to the Chinese?
There are now more registered Christians in China than there are members of the communist party!

China is officially an atheist state.




I guess there aren't many true communists left, then.

[ronedee]

I really have no problem with Atheists, unlike most of you that do with Christians. The problem I do have is with the "hate" conveyed by either side....which manifests itself in many ways.

IMO the thing most "good people" of any persuasion want is a moral compass that has been lost in our society. What was once Freedom and Liberty in one nation under God..........has become Freedom to do do whatever the f-k I want, when I want, where I want, and no one especially someone's god will take that away from me!

Translation? Chaos! Because "I" has taken the place of God!

Where do we...or worse yet, inner-city kids look in our present society for values, morals and a sense of fellowship? The movies? The internet? The family? The street corner? Really.... Is there anywhere to find it?

I'm wide open for answers, because I don't have them! The only thing I have is my Faith....and Hope that there is a place better than this rotten world we live in!

[Lion IRC]

Atheism has been an available menu option for 10, 20, 30, 50 thousand years.
Maybe the no-God hypothesis is the imaginary tale which people find hard to believe.

Enough of the "'entire country'' stereo-typing. They/them, smart/stupid, blah blah blah....

It's not a hallmark of clear thining.

[System of Solace]

Atheism has been an available menu option for 10, 20, 30, 50 thousand years.
Maybe the no-God hypothesis is the imaginary tale which people find hard to believe.

Or maybe it's because you could be killed for heresy? As soon as it was no longer a crime, people criticized religion. And they did it before then at risk of their lives.

Enough of the "'entire country'' stereo-typing. They/them, smart/stupid, blah blah blah....

It's not a hallmark of clear thining.

Why? As I recall you just used statistics about China and Australia.

[FallentoReason]

Religion always triumphs among the stupid. They are the most easily impressed.

The problem is that people today take tradition's word for it that their religion is true, ignoring the frightening level of ignorance which the originator of the tradition was subject to. No one believes in Zeus or Ra anymore. Why? Well, becasue there is no reason to believe in them. So why are the religions that persist more valid? The people who worshipped the sun were wrong to think it was a god, but at least the sun exists! And it provides energy to sustain our planet! About the most sensible religion out there (in terms of the validity of its diety, anyway), and it still fails...

Christianity isn't any different. They worship the SUN of God, who coincidentally began his ministry at the age of 30.

John the Baptist can be seen in the constellation of Aquarius, whose zodiac is at 30 degrees.

[Cyberman]

IMO the thing most "good people" of any persuasion want is a moral compass that has been lost in our society. What was once Freedom and Liberty in one nation under God..........has become Freedom to do do whatever the f-k I want, when I want, where I want, and no one especially someone's god will take that away from me!

Translation? Chaos! Because "I" has taken the place of God!

Interesting; how do you account for the Freedom and Liberty before your country became "one nation under God", ie 1954?

Nonetheless, let's see what happens if we replace "God" for this "I" which is causing so much trouble:

"What was once Freedom and Liberty in one nation under God..........has become Freedom to do do whatever the f-k God want(s), when God want(s), where God want(s), and no one especially someone's god will take that away from God!"

Notwithstanding the grammatical problems, does this sound like a society in which anyone, least of all "goodpeople", would want to live? Because to me this describes a totalitarian nightmare.

[FallentoReason]

Atheism has been an available menu option for 10, 20, 30, 50 thousand years.

Not when you get entire populations telling you the milky way is some god's jizz or something.

[Darkstar]

I really have no problem with Atheists, unlike most of you that do with Christians. The problem I do have is with the "hate" conveyed by either side....which manifests itself in many ways.

IMO the thing most "good people" of any persuasion want is a moral compass that has been lost in our society. What was once Freedom and Liberty in one nation under God..........has become Freedom to do do whatever the f-k I want, when I want, where I want, and no one especially someone's god will take that away from me!

Translation? Chaos! Because "I" has taken the place of God!

Where do we...or worse yet, inner-city kids look in our present society for values, morals and a sense of fellowship? The movies? The internet? The family? The street corner? Really.... Is there anywhere to find it?

I'm wide open for answers, because I don't have them! The only thing I have is my Faith....and Hope that there is a place better than this rotten world we live in!

You say you have no problems with atheists immediately before implying that we have no morals. I don't think anyone here hates christians as a whole. Some may hate christianity itself, but unless someone personally proves themself to be a bad person I won't dislike them personally. You concluded with 'the only thing I have is my faith'. Does this mean that without your faith you would be immoral? Statistics strongly suggest that religiousity doesn't make people more moral; it may actually increase crime rates on the whole. We get values from ourselves. It isn't a 'do whatever you want' world. If you can't be a good person without the fear of hell or reward of heaven, or perhaps you actually think the bible provides a good moral framework, that doesn't mean I need any of those things to be a good person.