Failed Biblical Prophecies

[Minimalist]

God had told them through Moses they were not to leave anyone alive in the lands He was giving them

What a murdering cocksucker you worship!

Fortunately, the whole story is nothing but later bullshit. Still, you should see a shrink to discover why you get a hard-on reading shit like that.

[Darkstar]

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About Chernobyl, I used it to show how so many could over look prophesy, some of the prophesy will be great events and dismissed and some will be news worthy and go unnoticed. Why Russian, why English or many of the languages that did not exist then. The Russians who read the prophesy had no problem understanding Chernobyl meant bitter, my thought is why would the Russians call a nuclear reactor bitter, puzzling IMO.

The second trumpet could be WWII, the mountain could have been the atomic bomb, the bloody sea could have very well been D-Day, the ocean was red with blood for a great distance, and it was so bloody many sea creatures died. There were 135,000 ships of different kinds involved in WWII and 36,000 were destroyed or made useless. This great event has not been considered by most as the second trumpet and I'm not saying it is for a fact, it does however fit.

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Unfortunately for you, the only thing you have demonstrated is that anything can be taken to be the fulfillment of a prophecy. If, for some [obvious] reason, the rapture doesn't come before the end of the generation associated with one of the trumpet prophecies, you can always admit you were wrong, while still maintaining that the non-falsifiable prophecies of yours are true, and calling us stubborn for not just taking your clearly inffaliable word for it. Then, you will say that the infalliablility comes from the divine being you cannot demonstrate exists who revealed these things, without demonstrating that they were revealed, either.

EDIT: And about the command god gave to Moses, can you please provide it? I don't know what you are referring to.

[Minimalist]

The Oracle of Delphi told the Athenians to put faith in their wooden wall and they won the naval battle of Salamis. Maybe we should sacrifice a goat to Apollo?

[Godscreated]

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About Chernobyl, I used it to show how so many could over look prophesy, some of the prophesy will be great events and dismissed and some will be news worthy and go unnoticed. Why Russian, why English or many of the languages that did not exist then. The Russians who read the prophesy had no problem understanding Chernobyl meant bitter, my thought is why would the Russians call a nuclear reactor bitter, puzzling IMO.

The second trumpet could be WWII, the mountain could have been the atomic bomb, the bloody sea could have very well been D-Day, the ocean was red with blood for a great distance, and it was so bloody many sea creatures died. There were 135,000 ships of different kinds involved in WWII and 36,000 were destroyed or made useless. This great event has not been considered by most as the second trumpet and I'm not saying it is for a fact, it does however fit.

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Unfortunately for you, the only thing you have demonstrated is that anything can be taken to be the fulfillment of a prophecy. If, for some [obvious] reason, the rapture doesn't come before the end of the generation associated with one of the trumpet prophecies, you can always admit you were wrong, while still maintaining that the non-falsifiable prophecies of yours are true, and calling us stubborn for not just taking your clearly inffaliable word for it. Then, you will say that the infalliablility comes from the divine being you cannot demonstrate exists who revealed these things, without demonstrating that they were revealed, either.

EDIT: And about the command god gave to Moses, can you please provide it? I don't know what you are referring to.

I'm not doing Bible study for you. What will you do in the case scripture is correct in the prophecies? I did not say the two prophecies I stated have not come to past as I noted.

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The Oracle of Delphi told the Athenians to put faith in their wooden wall and they won the naval battle of Salamis. Maybe we should sacrifice a goat to Apollo?

Go ahead if it makes you less grouchy, Christians do not have to do such a thing, we've been taken care of.

[The Grand Nudger]

Well, some of you have been taken care of, sure. Mainly the ones stammering from the pulpit. The rest of you look to be in a pretty sorry state.

[Kousbroek]

The Oracle of Delphi told the Athenians to put faith in their wooden wall and they won the naval battle of Salamis. Maybe we should sacrifice a goat to Apollo?

Go ahead if it makes you less grouchy, Christians do not have to do such a thing, we've been taken care of.

Yes goats aren't quite your style, you guys prefer human sacrifice, ads a little more drama to the whole thing don't you agree ...

[Minimalist]

Go ahead if it makes you less grouchy, Christians do not have to do such a thing, we've been taken care of.

Apollo 1
Jesus 0

[DeistPaladin]

You are still a shitty lawyer, drippy.

God should have paid a bigger retainer to get someone competent to try to get his sorry, holy, ass off the hook.

The evidence is so stacked against Yahweh that he doesn't need a lawyer, he needs a priest.

...hence why so many are in his employment.

[Ryantology]

Now you've made the assertion, prove what you have stated. The bold part is what I'm referring to.

I can't do that, of course. It's merely informed speculation. No other reason for it seems plausible. That, of course, is not proof and it is why I am not entirely certain. I could simply invent proof, or creatively interpret reality in such a way that I could call it 'proof', but I don't do things like that because I'm not a theist.

Certainty is never a problem for you, though, so now you prove your own assertions about God taking an active role in the fall of Tyre, bearing in mind that if your only evidence is in the Bible, you don't have any evidence at all.

[Darkstar]

And about the command god gave to Moses, can you please provide it? I don't know what you are referring to.

I'm not doing Bible study for you. What will you do in the case scripture is correct in the prophecies? I did not say the two prophecies I stated have not come to past as I noted.

+ = :annoyedsmile: ...which we don't have
I just knew you would say that. All I'm asking for is one verse that supports your claim. I have been good about providing the verses for my arguments, yet you, a devout theist, cannot even provide a single one. Well, I guess I should just assume you made it up, right?

Let's look at the facts here:

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Judges 1:19
The Lord was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had chariots fitted with iron.
(bolding added)

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There is the reason; it says why they couldn't do it right in the text. It wasn't god's anger; god simply couldn't stop those chariots.

We know what god's wrath looks like:
Judges 2:10-15

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After that whole generation had been gathered to their ancestors, another generation grew up who knew neither the Lord nor what he had done for Israel. 11 Then the Israelites did evil in the eyes of the Lord and served the Baals. 12 They forsook the Lord, the God of their ancestors, who had brought them out of Egypt. They followed and worshiped various gods of the peoples around them. They aroused the Lord’s anger 13 because they forsook him and served Baal and the Ashtoreths. 14 In his anger against Israel the Lord gave them into the hands of raiders who plundered them. He sold them into the hands of their enemies all around, whom they were no longer able to resist. 15 Whenever Israel went out to fight, the hand of the Lord was against them to defeat them, just as he had sworn to them. They were in great distress.

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(bolding added)
Losing one battle while winning many others is not a sign of god's anger. If it is, then the victories in the surrounding battles should be seen as an even greater contradiction to god's omnipotence. And, if you say that god simply abandoned them to let things play out naturally, please note

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Judges 1:1-2
After the death of Joshua, the Israelites asked the Lord, “Who of us is to go up first to fight against the Canaanites?”

2 The Lord answered, “Judah shall go up; I have given the land into their hands.”

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and

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Judges 1:19
The Lord was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had chariots fitted with iron.