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(November 3, 2012 at 3:05 am)Daniel Wrote: That said, being required to vote is a very small burdon on citizens in the first place, so why would you want to waste your voice by not voting?
(November 4, 2012 at 1:08 am)Zen Badger Wrote: I always vote, because of the countries where you can't vote.
I applaud and echo these sentiments. I have always voted, ever since I came of age; I know how many people fought and died to give me that right. All I have to do is mark a ballot paper every so often.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
November 6, 2012 at 10:02 pm (This post was last modified: November 6, 2012 at 10:03 pm by cratehorus.)
this is why you should just call people nazis and NOT respond to their incessant demands to "prove it", it spares you from learning shit like this:
He recorded sessions with a 26-year-old British member, Chris White, who had moved to England with LaRouche's former partner, Carol Schnitzer. In December 1973 LaRouche asked the couple to return to the U.S.; his followers sent tapes of the subsequent sessions with White to The New York Times as evidence of an assassination plot.
According to the Times, "[t]here are sounds of weeping, and vomiting on the tapes, and Mr. White complains of being deprived of sleep, food and cigarettes. At one point someone says 'raise the voltage,' but (LaRouche) says this was associated with the bright lights used in the questioning rather than an electric shock." The Times wrote, "Mr. White complains of a terrible pain in his arm," then LaRouche can be heard saying, 'That's not real. That's in the program'."
LaRouche told the newspaper White had been "reduced to an eight-cycle infinite loop with look-up table, with homosexual bestiality"; he said White had not been harmed and that a physician—a LaRouche movement member—had been present throughout. White ended up telling LaRouche he had been programmed by the CIA and British intelligence to set up LaRouche for assassination by Cuban exile frogmen.
According to The Washington Post, "brainwashing hysteria" took hold of the movement; one activist said he attended meetings where members were writhing on the floor saying they needed de-programming. In two weeks in January 1974, the group issued 41 separate press releases about brainwashing.
(November 6, 2012 at 10:02 pm)cratehorus Wrote: this is why you should just call people nazis and NOT respond to their incessant demands to "prove it", it spares you from learning shit like this:
He recorded sessions with a 26-year-old British member, Chris White, who had moved to England with LaRouche's former partner, Carol Schnitzer. In December 1973 LaRouche asked the couple to return to the U.S.; his followers sent tapes of the subsequent sessions with White to The New York Times as evidence of an assassination plot.
According to the Times, "[t]here are sounds of weeping, and vomiting on the tapes, and Mr. White complains of being deprived of sleep, food and cigarettes. At one point someone says 'raise the voltage,' but (LaRouche) says this was associated with the bright lights used in the questioning rather than an electric shock." The Times wrote, "Mr. White complains of a terrible pain in his arm," then LaRouche can be heard saying, 'That's not real. That's in the program'."
LaRouche told the newspaper White had been "reduced to an eight-cycle infinite loop with look-up table, with homosexual bestiality"; he said White had not been harmed and that a physician—a LaRouche movement member—had been present throughout. White ended up telling LaRouche he had been programmed by the CIA and British intelligence to set up LaRouche for assassination by Cuban exile frogmen.
According to The Washington Post, "brainwashing hysteria" took hold of the movement; one activist said he attended meetings where members were writhing on the floor saying they needed de-programming. In two weeks in January 1974, the group issued 41 separate press releases about brainwashing.
I get the distinct impression that you are now arguing with yourself.
(November 6, 2012 at 10:09 pm)cato123 Wrote: I get the distinct impression that you are now arguing with yourself.
NOOO your in a cult and now I'm telling you about it? why? are you fucking stupid or just blind?
Quote:The story of how Lyndon LaRouche transformed himself from Marxist theoretician to red-white-and-blue conservative in 10 years is a tale of a political chameleon.
He has taken with him on his ideological journey a worldwide organization that follows his every instruction and mimics his every political twist and turn, according to interviews with former LaRouche associates and experts on the group, as well as the group's internal documents.
LaRouche "leads what may well be one of the strangest political groups in American history," the conservative Heritage Foundation said in a report. "LaRouche has managed to attract a small but fanatical following to his conspiratorial view of the world."
"It's a seven-day-a-week, 24-hour-a-day total immersion," said a recent dropout, who, like other ex-members interviewed, did not want to be identified for fear of retribution. "It's a situation where people wouldn't have any private lives anymore . . . . Everyone's got to march to the same tune."
"He demands sycophantic obedience," the former member said. "He repeatedly tells the members he is in total control of the organization."
LaRouche was "eccentric and odd," a "mysterious character" who told a range of stories about his past and "stayed up for 24 hours at a stretch, talking nonstop," the ex-associate said.
The article said the group would enter Communist meetings to accomplish this. "We destroy the CP," it went on, "because it is an absolutely necessary step to ensure that the working class in the USA and Western Europe is prepared with competent leadership . . . ."
In the following months, there were about 40 fights at gatherings of Communists and others, according to former associates of LaRouche and published reports. Many people were injured, and some LaRouche supporters were arrested, but there apparently were no convictions.
"Mobile squads of helmeted, club-wielding goons invaded bookstores and offices of the CPUSA, Socialist Workers Party and Peking-line groups, attacking their members there and on the street," said the study by journalist Rees.
Former members said some attacks were in retaliation for assaults by Communists, and others were unprovoked. LaRouche said in an interview that his supporters fought only when attacked.
At the time, LaRouche berated his followers for not being tough enough and criticized those who tried to avoid participating in the fights, according to ex-members and persons knowledgeable about the group.
"There was a tremendous emphasis on being psychologically ruthless: 'Can you guys really take it?' " another said. "Mop-up" started the organization's move toward being a "security-conscious, paranoid, 24-hour-a-day thing . . . . It changed the organization psychologically."
The members are "rank-and-file automatons" devoted to LaRouche, according to one member's resignation letter several years ago.
"There are about 200 predictions about the collapse of the world economy, each of which didn't add up," one ex-member said. "Amnesia is one of the necessary qualificiations for membership."
(November 6, 2012 at 10:09 pm)cato123 Wrote: I get the distinct impression that you are now arguing with yourself.
NOOO your in a cult and now I'm telling you about it? why? are you fucking stupid or just blind?
Still stupidly waiting in the dark for some evidence that I belong to a cult while you continue to paste shit to get pissed at; hence, my observation that you are arguing with yourself.
(November 6, 2012 at 10:22 pm)cratehorus Wrote: NOOO your in a cult and now I'm telling you about it? why? are you fucking stupid or just blind?
Still stupidly waiting in the dark for some evidence that I belong to a cult while you continue to paste shit to get pissed at; hence, my observation that you are arguing with yourself.
who am I proving, what too, exactly? ..........I asked if you were in one of these cults..... you didn't respond............ so ill just assume your a nazi until you PROVE TO ME YOUR NOT...........
yep your a nazi...............so what's on your mind you wanna talk about the jews? the illuminati? what's up your craw? maybe you want to get us all back on the gold standard? legalize heroin? huh? what is it? I can't tell which cult your in just by going by your stupid fuckin one-liners
