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RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
November 29, 2012 at 5:19 pm (This post was last modified: November 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm by Drich.)
(November 29, 2012 at 5:12 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote:
Quote:This maybe true, but before i Gave myself to god i can honestly say i hated black people and wanted nothing to do with them.
I appreciate your honesty, but come on...did you need god for that?
Yes.
Nothing in my life outside of God would have given me the 'catylist' i needed to force the Change needed to off set years of being intimidated, humiliated, and out right beaten. (daily)
(November 28, 2012 at 12:24 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
Drich Wrote:If it is a question or a spiritual matter I am working through I can get a sermon on the radio to speak directly towards it, or can even get a direct revelation. Meaning that I won't know what to do or say and then just know something beyond my scope, that fits the situation or problem perfectly.
Then their are dreams/visions, and of course the angel/messenger story you guys seem to love so much. But I would say the great majority comes from simply being connected with a strong fellowship of believers and allowing God to work or give direction from with in the group.
What is your criteria for determining natural phenomena from that of divine origin?
RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
November 29, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Quote:Nothing in my life outside of God would have given me the 'catylist' i needed to force the Change needed to off set years of being intimidated, humiliated, and out right beaten. (daily)
I have no clue of what a catylist is, but I hope you didn't express your racist thoughts back then towards your black bullies. It would have given them a reason to beat you up.
RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
November 29, 2012 at 5:38 pm (This post was last modified: November 29, 2012 at 5:39 pm by pocaracas.)
(November 29, 2012 at 5:26 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote:
Quote:Nothing in my life outside of God would have given me the 'catylist' i needed to force the Change needed to off set years of being intimidated, humiliated, and out right beaten. (daily)
I have no clue of what a catylist is, but I hope you didn't express your racist thoughts back then towards your black bullies. It would have given them a reason to beat you up.
A catalyst is something that speeds up a given reaction.
For example, all Diesel powered cars are required to have a catalyst which breaks up the harmful particles that these engines throw out, in an attempt to keep the air clean(er).... or speeds up the process of breaking htem up enough for them to exit out the tail pipe in a non-toxic form.
Drich required the help of his imaginary friend to change himself. Some people require it... let them be.... pay them no mind.
RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
November 29, 2012 at 5:40 pm
(November 29, 2012 at 5:19 pm)Drich Wrote:
(November 29, 2012 at 5:12 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: I appreciate your honesty, but come on...did you need god for that?
Yes.
Nothing in my life outside of God would have given me the 'catylist' i needed to force the Change needed to off set years of being intimidated, humiliated, and out right beaten. (daily)
Sounds like escapism to me ..
(November 29, 2012 at 5:19 pm)Drich Wrote: The message has to be consistant with the bible.
RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
November 29, 2012 at 9:05 pm (This post was last modified: November 29, 2012 at 9:06 pm by Darkstar.)
(November 29, 2012 at 5:40 pm)Kousbroek Wrote:
(November 29, 2012 at 5:19 pm)Drich Wrote: The message has to be consistant with the bible.
You have got to be kidding.
Oh! Oh! God told me to incite violence against Muslims and start another crusade!
Deuteronomy 13:12-18
12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely,[a] both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt, 17 and none of the condemned things[b] are to be found in your hands. Then the Lord will turn from his fierce anger, will show you mercy, and will have compassion on you. He will increase your numbers, as he promised on oath to your ancestors— 18 because you obey the Lord your God by keeping all his commands that I am giving you today and doing what is right in his eyes.
RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
November 30, 2012 at 12:14 am (This post was last modified: November 30, 2012 at 12:27 am by Drich.)
(November 29, 2012 at 9:05 pm)Darkstar Wrote:
(November 29, 2012 at 5:40 pm)Kousbroek Wrote: You have got to be kidding.
Oh! Oh! God told me to incite violence against Muslims and start another crusade!
Deuteronomy 13:12-18
12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely,[a] both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt, 17 and none of the condemned things[b] are to be found in your hands. Then the Lord will turn from his fierce anger, will show you mercy, and will have compassion on you. He will increase your numbers, as he promised on oath to your ancestors— 18 because you obey the Lord your God by keeping all his commands that I am giving you today and doing what is right in his eyes.
Not that I'd do it...
I shot this down before you could get it out and you did anyway, the first chance you got.
Again Unless one is an OT Jew the passage in Deut: 13 does not apply. that is what is meant by being consistant with the bible.
(November 29, 2012 at 5:38 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(November 29, 2012 at 5:26 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: I have no clue of what a catylist is, but I hope you didn't express your racist thoughts back then towards your black bullies. It would have given them a reason to beat you up.
A catalyst is something that speeds up a given reaction.
For example, all Diesel powered cars are required to have a catalyst which breaks up the harmful particles that these engines throw out, in an attempt to keep the air clean(er).... or speeds up the process of breaking htem up enough for them to exit out the tail pipe in a non-toxic form.
The catalyst or DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) contains about 30% urea or (most commonly "cow pee") that needs to be injected in a 're-gen or burn cycle. this is where baffels in the exhaust system close to capture as much heat as possiable to break down the The toxic Nitrogen oxcides into none toxic componets. My hate in this illustration is the is the toxic Nitrogen Oxcides in the diesel exhaust. God or rather My love for Him is the catalyst that breaks down the hate i had.
RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
November 30, 2012 at 12:37 am
(November 30, 2012 at 12:14 am)Drich Wrote: I shot this down before you could get it out and you did anyway, the first chance you got.
Again Unless one is an OT Jew the passage in Deut: 13 does not apply. that is what is meant by being consistant with the bible.
Okay, Is suppose this particular law isn't one of the universal ones. Had you posted this passage
Deuteronomy 12:1
The One Place of Worship
12 These are the decrees and laws you must be careful to follow in the land that the Lord, the God of your ancestors, has given you to possess—as long as you live in the land.
earlier, it would have cleared things up. Nonetheless, it is consistent with Yahweh's morals (worship me or die and burn forever). Which is why Jesus kind of skipped over some OT laws. But...how did we get on this subject again?
RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
November 30, 2012 at 1:01 am
(November 30, 2012 at 12:14 am)Drich Wrote:
(November 29, 2012 at 5:38 pm)pocaracas Wrote: A catalyst is something that speeds up a given reaction.
For example, all Diesel powered cars are required to have a catalyst which breaks up the harmful particles that these engines throw out, in an attempt to keep the air clean(er).... or speeds up the process of breaking htem up enough for them to exit out the tail pipe in a non-toxic form.
The catalyst or DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) contains about 30% urea or (most commonly "cow pee") that needs to be injected in a 're-gen or burn cycle. this is where baffels in the exhaust system close to capture as much heat as possiable to break down the The toxic Nitrogen oxcides into none toxic componets. My hate in this illustration is the is the toxic Nitrogen Oxcides in the diesel exhaust. God or rather My love for Him is the catalyst that breaks down the hate i had.
I realise that you are stretching the analogy beyond tolerance, but are you sure you really want to equate your "love" for your god as cow piss? Let me guess - it shines out like a shaft of gold, when all around is dark.
[/Monty_Python reference]
I would make a "cow piss - bull shit" gag but instead I'll just state it and ruin that punchline for everyone else.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
November 30, 2012 at 1:05 am
(November 30, 2012 at 12:51 am)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I don't pay Rhythm much attention. He's an idiot.
It's nice to see Christians and atheists having meaningful discussion though.
I must revert to christianity. Tyrants throughout the ages invoked the divine right of kings. These bastards had court jesters and all we get is Vinny.