Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?

[Drich]

Just smoke another bowel, and you will realize that none of this really matters anyway.

I know you have received a lot of shit for your terrible word usage and spelling, but this has to be your funniest flub yet. Congratulations. I never thought you'd top the "Hitler and Gerbils" remark.

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Ah ok, so we agree on the fact that religion is bullshit only for immature knuckleheads ? ( or pathetic money addicts )

Drich ?

I just thought as a stoner if you just smoked some more pot you would loose interest, and just order a pizza or something.

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I'm going to be honest here with you, by sheer volume you all are wearing me down. I can't keep this pace of one marithon post after another on multiple fronts. especially if you have several questions to ask. i just donot have the time or resources to look all of it up (as you have accuratly discovered) So I need to ask a favor. Please boil your questions down as simply and straight forward as you can otherwise If I can not figure out what you are asking i will have to move on.

Apo gives you a 400 word reply and your mind gets blown. God gives you almost 800,000 words worth of text and you rejoice. Regardless of your belief, how do reconcile this difference in defense of your impotence?

Must be the same mechanism that fervent believers use to describe the difference between a 6000 year old earth and a 4,500,000,000 year old earth.

I have to invision what i read (I think alpo knows this.) otherwise i have no idea what is going on. She uses too many adj's, and I get lost trying to picture what she is saying. She will also just go on and stop short of making a point... So i don't know what she is saying and I don't know if she has a point. which causes me to ask if she is even asking a question.

[Brakeman]

If a rational holy ghost wanted to talk to you it simply would in the fashion seen so many times in the bible.

Who did the Holy Ghost speak to that did not want anything to do with God? The Pharasees fit that bill (Meaning their was plenty of oppertunity) but did not ever speak to one of them directly or rather did not speak to them in a way the directly understood.

Who? Saul for one, or perhaps yourself as you stated that this Hell dream occurred before you were saved.

Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
i posted this on another website and came across it looking for something else. Thought I would share.

This all happened before I was saved. I use to stop breathing while I slept, and I remember one time I was a sleep, but realized I was fairly lucid, but at the same time I could not wake because I had stopped breathing

So unless you are saying that the origin of this dream message was just your own mind playing tricks on you, it would have had to be the holy ghost, right? Yet the holy ghost was talking to you through dreams before you were saved? Why is that? Why don't I get dreams like that from the HG?

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I gave a very specific example Of God communicating a very Direct message to me in a way consistent with the biblical examples.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-15622.html
http://atheistforums.org/thread-13378.html

Both of these stories sound so much like the "liars for jesus" stories I've heard all of my life. The stories always get better with each retelling.

But, giving you the benefit of doubt, let us suppose that your stories are true. Then have you proposed to the church that your experience be included in the bible yet? The bible is the collection of god's word to man and if the holy spirit said such things to you in any fashion, then the story should be included into the bible for other christians to get inspiration and guidance from.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Why is this ghost incapable of speaking to people Drich?
(and since when did you get shy of explaining things for god.."jesus explains the change"...wtf is that shit? - hows about you rely that explanation?)

He does. as i said it starts with feelings and matures into direction.

It's been my experience that The Holy Spirit speaks to us the whole time, we just don't know how to listen. It isn't until we learn to follow what God has told us to do, that we learn to hear/listen to the Holy Spirit.

Oh, so I guess we're all "closed minded" and aren't seeing the signs in front of our eyes, right? If I had a nickel...

The real answer is because it's more difficult for them to provide evidence of direct verbal interactions, and easier for them to attribute thoughts they've made up themselves to their super invisible best friend.

[FutureAndAHope]

Hi God has spoken to me audiably before on numerous occassions. Read my website at http://www.futureandahope.net for examples.

Below is one example of him speaking to me.

One morning I got up and walked into the hall and I heard a voice that I believed was God say "How would you like to be stabbed in the Valley". The Valley was known as the rough end of town, and the voice scared me a little, I wondered if I had done something to offend God. I had planned to go down to the Valley to ask people out to church as was my habit at the time. In the end I went anyway regardless of the fear. I walked up to the first person I met and asked him if he would like to go out to church. He said to me "I am an atheist, I don't believe in God". I just said "fine", but hoped to change his mind. He then proceeded to unbutton his shirt and showed me scar marks up and down his chest and stomach. He said to me, "I was attacked by a knife wielding man in the Valley some time ago and spent months recovering in hospital, How could God allow that to happen to me". Then I knew why God had said in the morning "How would I like to be stabbed?". God understood this man, but had a good plan for him. Some weeks latter this man came out to church and became a Christian.

[Ryantology]

Uninteresting fiction.

By the way, which book of the Bible is "Joe"?

[Brakeman]

Hi God has spoken to me audiably before on numerous occassions. Read my website at http://www.futureandahope.net for examples.

Below is one example of him speaking to me.

One morning I got up and walked into the hall and I heard a voice that I believed was God say "How would you like to be stabbed in the Valley". The Valley was known as the rough end of town, and the voice scared me a little, I wondered if I had done something to offend God. I had planned to go down to the Valley to ask people out to church as was my habit at the time. In the end I went anyway regardless of the fear. I walked up to the first person I met and asked him if he would like to go out to church. He said to me "I am an atheist, I don't believe in God". I just said "fine", but hoped to change his mind. He then proceeded to unbutton his shirt and showed me scar marks up and down his chest and stomach. He said to me, "I was attacked by a knife wielding man in the Valley some time ago and spent months recovering in hospital, How could God allow that to happen to me". Then I knew why God had said in the morning "How would I like to be stabbed?". God understood this man, but had a good plan for him. Some weeks latter this man came out to church and became a Christian.

Did god tell you to steal a stock image of the knife wielding man for the story? It was taken from here:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-2935615/...13703-1-32
Knowledgeable atheists do not start off debate with a "look at my scars and why did god do that?" That seems very far fetched. Can you give us this man's name to us so we can ask him why he converted? Perhaps you could give him our forum address, we'd love to meet him!

[Angrboda]

@cato123:

I wouldn't take his protestations here all too seriously. He's doing the same thing in his "Avoiding questions" thread, making all sorts of whiny excuses for why he doesn't, or shouldn't, respond to this or that point or question of mine. I suspect it's merely a prelude to him taking a "principled stand" in which he refuses to answer me at all, presumably for cause. I suppose I should be flattered, watching somebody squirm so hard to escape my baleful gaze.

(On a Christian forum I used to frequent, there's a space in the user profile for you to put your occupation. Being disabled and retired, I simply put "Gotterdammerung." I suppose there's a grain of truth in that.)

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Hi God has spoken to me audiably before on numerous occassions. Read my website at http://www.futureandahope.net for examples.

Below is one example of him speaking to me.

One morning I got up and walked into the hall and I heard a voice that I believed was God say "How would you like to be stabbed in the Valley". The Valley was known as the rough end of town, and the voice scared me a little, I wondered if I had done something to offend God. I had planned to go down to the Valley to ask people out to church as was my habit at the time. In the end I went anyway regardless of the fear. I walked up to the first person I met and asked him if he would like to go out to church. He said to me "I am an atheist, I don't believe in God". I just said "fine", but hoped to change his mind. He then proceeded to unbutton his shirt and showed me scar marks up and down his chest and stomach. He said to me, "I was attacked by a knife wielding man in the Valley some time ago and spent months recovering in hospital, How could God allow that to happen to me". Then I knew why God had said in the morning "How would I like to be stabbed?". God understood this man, but had a good plan for him. Some weeks latter this man came out to church and became a Christian.

It must be great to still believe your imagination. To have the mind of a child as an adult.

[Cyberman]

Interesting that the immediate reaction to a disembodied voice speaking about stabbing you is that it must be God, isn't it? It's like I often say, you don't worship this god so much as fear it.

Also, to borrow a popular contemporary phrase: Citation needed. I outgrew stories involving anonymous and generic characters before I even started school, even if others find them convincing.

[Ryantology]

Upon second reading, that charming little anecdote carries a pair of chilling implications:

1: God was hell-bent on that stabbing taking place. One way or another, somebody was getting a new hole. The moral of the story is, if you accept God, it just means somebody else will get stabbed instead of you.
2: Maybe God was giving you the chance to suffer, to be a hero and take one for someone else's benefit, and you opted instead to let someone suffer for you. Isn't he supposed to work in mysterious ways like that?

How heartwarming. <3