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Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
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RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
(December 30, 2012 at 12:55 pm)SavedByChrist94 Wrote: 1, Science say God The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit exists, The Bible is His Word, He Loves us and that "atheism" is fairy tales.

Citation please? Which discipline of Science "say" all this?

(December 30, 2012 at 12:55 pm)SavedByChrist94 Wrote: 2, "atheism" says rape is good.

Atheism says nothing at all. It is a response to theism and nothing else. I'll leave it to others to educate you on what the Abrahamic bible says about rape.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
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#33
RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
SavedByChrist Wrote:2, "atheism" says rape is good.

Were you trying to be inflammatory with this, or are you really this misinformed?

Also, remind me again which commandment condemns rape?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
(December 30, 2012 at 1:17 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
SavedByChrist Wrote:2, "atheism" says rape is good.

Were you trying to be inflammatory with this, or are you really this misinformed?

Also, remind me again which commandment condemns rape?

There are many instances in the bible that condone rape, slavery, incest, murder, genocide and all manner of horrible things.

The only thing it seems consistent on is don't screw someone of your own sex.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

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RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
(December 30, 2012 at 1:14 pm)SavedByChrist94 Wrote: a "lack of belief" needs jusification/proof, I can't lack belief that Person A is the killer without evidence why, especially when we have video footage of Person A committing the murder.

Nope; sorry. In this scenario of yours, you are presented with the evidence that your person A is guilty, not evidence to justify a lack of belief in his guilt. The crime is proven and the perpetrator shown to be the murderer. In other words, you began with the lack of belief and then went on to consider the presented evidence. You just shot yourself in the foot I'm afraid.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#36
RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
Should have been the head.
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RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
(December 30, 2012 at 1:09 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Citation please? Which discipline of Science "say" all this?


First Uncaused Cause
Fine Tuning
Morality(Apart of nature, therefore scientific)
Substance Dualism
Intelligent Design
"naturalism" being imposssible
"macro-evolution" being impossible.



(December 30, 2012 at 1:09 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Atheism says nothing at all. It is a response to theism and nothing else. I'll leave it to others to educate you on what the Abrahamic bible says about rape.


Bible condemns rape, Deuteromony 22:25-27

25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.


while under "atheism" there would be no right or wrong, what reason would rape be wrong under "naturalism"/"atheism"?

None.

Added with the fact that "naturalism"'s life support is "macro-evolution" and that rape would help advance the species so under "macro-evolution" and "naturalism"/"natural selection" not only would it not be wrong, not only would it be ok, but it would be good.

Sorry but keep the sinful man(who were sick in the head when they created "atheism"/"naturalism", most likely due to rebellion) made fairy tale myths of "macro-evolution", "naturalism" and "atheism" to yourself, I don't want any of that sick twisted immoral doctrine around me.

(December 30, 2012 at 1:17 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
SavedByChrist Wrote:2, "atheism" says rape is good.

Were you trying to be inflammatory with this, or are you really this misinformed?

Another "atheist" who thinks he knows everything about The Bible because he went on "evil" Bible.com(run a by a pervert who thinks keeps virgins to yourself means something sex, sees the word virgin and thinks sex or rape, probably gets none) or infidels who have been long refuted.

(December 30, 2012 at 1:24 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(December 30, 2012 at 1:17 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Were you trying to be inflammatory with this, or are you really this misinformed?

Also, remind me again which commandment condemns rape?

Deuteromony 22:25-27

25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

(December 30, 2012 at 1:24 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: There are many instances in the bible that condone rape, slavery, incest, murder, genocide and all manner of horrible things.

Nope, none, list some so I could refute you.

(December 30, 2012 at 1:24 pm)Stimbo Wrote: [quote='SavedByChrist94' pid='379287' dateline='1356887687']
a "lack of belief" needs jusification/proof, I can't lack belief that Person A is the killer without evidence why, especially when we have video footage of Person A committing the murder.

Nope; sorry. In this scenario of yours, you are presented with the evidence that your person A is guilty, not evidence to justify a lack of belief in his guilt. The crime is proven and the perpetrator shown to be the murderer. In other words, you began with the lack of belief and then went on to consider the presented evidence. You just shot yourself in the foot I'm afraid.



Nope, you cannot believe nor Lack belief that the person is a killer, it's what you call neutral, which is not "atheism" but "agnostics", however that is false as something happened, so it would be either Theism(Christian) or "atheism", "atheism"(denial of God's existence or lack of belief in His existence) has no evidence whatsoever and has Substantial evidence against from Theism, that it's an Irrefutable Fact, Theism, Christian Theism that is, is The Facts of life
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RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
Ah yes, the good ol' "if it benefits evolution, and you believe in evolution, you therefore think it is good" argument. Unfortunately for you, that is not how it works.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
(December 30, 2012 at 3:32 pm)SavedByChrist94 Wrote: Bible condemns rape, Deuteromony 22:25-27

25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

Why stop at verse 27? That's right, because verses 28 and 29 indicate that the punishment for raping a virgin is a small payment to the father and hiring a wedding planner.
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RE: Destroying "atheism", God(The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) is a Fact
SavedByChrist94 Wrote:Another "atheist" who thinks he knows everything about The Bible because he went on "evil" Bible.com(run a by a pervert who thinks keeps virgins to yourself means something sex, sees the word virgin and thinks sex or rape, probably gets none) or infidels who have been long refuted.

What the fuck are you even talking about? I admit that I don't kniw much about the bible, but none of what I do know comes from evilbible.com. In fact, I care so little about what is in the bible that I have never even contemplated going to that site.

I have to ask though, what does anything you said have to do with me asking whether you are so misinformed that you think atheism says anything about rape being good?

And then a follow up question, were you dropped on your head as a baby?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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