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RE: Why is life worth living as an atheist?
January 6, 2013 at 12:51 pm
(January 6, 2013 at 12:47 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I dont believe in god but the last part of that made me say "jesus christ"
I don't believe people are inherently moraless creatures who are kept in line only through the hard fist of gods, parents, and governments.
Granted, morals are subjective... but they can be inherited (intersubective) to some extent 
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RE: Why is life worth living as an atheist?
January 6, 2013 at 12:52 pm
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I'll echo Lillys sentiment in a less Lilliesque way. It isn't the confines of the law that prevent me from raping someone either. A belief in god (or lack thereof) doesn't seem to have the ability to make (or break) a rapist either. Its really the same issue as the whole "why is life worth living as an atheist"...the atheist bit, similar to belief in god or existence of law to the rapist bit- boils down to a useless addition to the question (or dilemma).
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RE: Why is life worth living as an atheist?
January 6, 2013 at 1:01 pm
I actually mentioned in this thread that i believe people are kind to each other because its instinctual, that includes not raping somone. But i felt the need to include what i said in the phrase "if youre an atheist you can have sex however you want within the confines of the law" Just incase it got misunderstood as meaning you can now go out and rape and pillage without feeling guilt. What i meant was you dont have to focus on sexual acts which holy books say are correct and right.
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RE: Why is life worth living as an atheist?
January 6, 2013 at 1:03 pm
You know Lilly and I are just picking at you, flirting with the notion of another post-war....lol.
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RE: Why is life worth living as an atheist?
January 6, 2013 at 1:09 pm
(January 6, 2013 at 1:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You know Lilly and I are just picking at you, flirting with the notion of another post-war....lol.
haha yeh i thought that was the case, i know when im being picked at.
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RE: Why is life worth living as an atheist?
January 6, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Life is worth living as an atheist because there are too many people to piss off by just existing. I am comfortable getting up in the morning because I know that my mere existence is enough to drive some irrational fool to frothing-at-the-mouth insanity.
I don't mean that in the sense that I enjoy people hating me, but rather that so long as irrational hatred exists I will be glad to fight against it in support of a person's free choice of belief or lifestyle.
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RE: Why is life worth living as an atheist?
January 6, 2013 at 3:48 pm
(January 6, 2013 at 11:52 am)Alex87 Wrote: To be honest I never tried them. There is no rule it just seems artificial to me when i imagine depending on them to be happy, sort of like ignoring the issue and treating the symptoms, i dunno. Whatever works for others is none of my business.
As far as this goes, "happy pills" are just neurochemical balancers. They're meant to get your neurotransmitters in order so you can continue to lead you life as normal. There is also therapy to treat the "issue" with the pills goes after the "symptoms". Some folks don't need the pills and some folks don't need the therapy, but you shouldn't let something like that keep you from being happy. Pills and therapy are just tools.
But life's meaning is a question for philosophy. To me, life is what you make of it (in simplest terms). We're all entitled to choice, including the choice to make your own meanings from life. I see from your OP that you think a little differently. That's perfectly fine. My philosophy has helped me deal with a lot more than these questions and it's given me an incredible sense of freedom and responsibility. I hope you'll fine a philosophy that you'll feel equally positive about.
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RE: Why is life worth living as an atheist?
January 6, 2013 at 3:56 pm
My philosophy has helped me deal with a lot more than these questions and it's given me an incredible sense of freedom and responsibility. I hope you'll fine a philosophy that you'll feel equally positive about.
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Thanks for the nice thought. What is your philosophy if i may ask?
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RE: Why is life worth living as an atheist?
January 6, 2013 at 4:18 pm
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Here are the basics of Existentialism.
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RE: Why is life worth living as an atheist?
January 7, 2013 at 12:44 am
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(January 6, 2013 at 1:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You know Lilly and I are just picking at you, flirting with the notion of another post-war....lol.
Oh if you dare... I'll be right there to smear your face into the blood-soaked ground. I refuse to not win.
It beats playing Karma and watching people pussy out of easily won teamfights.
(January 6, 2013 at 4:18 pm)Annik Wrote: Here are the basics of Existentialism.
You know, I happen to disagree with a great deal of their terminology there.
Wikipedia isn't the best philosophical source... discussion and debate are. Throwing words such as 'know' around in such a presumptive manner... 
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