Physics, Hindu Cosmology, God and New Age Inspiration

[GirlyMan]

Fuck dude, that's what I just said. And presumptuous? No. I'm suggesting a threshold degree of complexity after which any system will exhibit emergent properties.

Oh okay. I just think "emergent properties" causes more confusion than clarity.. but you mean by it something like a spandrel?

The fuck that's got to do with arches? I'm thinking sigmoid.


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fuck me. i'm being trolled and shit ain't i ... fuck me.

[MindForgedManacle]

What does it imply? There was no space, time and so on. Besids negative + positive energy = 0. It really does come from nothing^^

It implies - and Krauss knows this - that there literally wasn't anything, which is not the case. Modern physics says that that was probably a quantum environment that fluctuated to create the universe. That is something, not nothing.

And you are misrepresenting (or misunderstanding) what is meant by "positive" and "negative" energy.

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Fuck dude, that's what I just said. And presumptuous? No. I'm suggesting a threshold degree of complexity after which any system will exhibit emergent properties.

Oh okay. I just think "emergent properties" causes more confusion than clarity.. but you mean by it something like a spandrel?

He means phenomenon like entropy. Entropy is not in the fundamental laws of physics. Entropy is completely a result of statistics, given the fact that there are untold numbers of ways to be more disordered tan to be ordered. In a very simple system (say the collision between two billiard balls), if I play a video of them colliding and you don't know beforehand if it's playing regularly or in reverse, you will not be able to tell if it's playing in reverse or not. This is an example of how the emergent property of entropy is the cause for our perception of time.

[GirlyMan]

What does it imply? There was no space, time and so on. Besids negative + positive energy = 0. It really does come from nothing^^

It implies - and Krauss knows this - that there literally wasn't anything, which is not the case. Modern physics says that that was probably a quantum environment that fluctuated to create the universe. That is something, not nothing.

And you are misrepresenting (or misunderstanding) what is meant by "positive" and "negative" energy.

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Oh okay. I just think "emergent properties" causes more confusion than clarity.. but you mean by it something like a spandrel?

He means phenomenon like entropy. Entropy is not in the fundamental laws of physics. Entropy is completely a result of statistics, given the fact that there are untold numbers of ways to be more disordered tan to be ordered. In a very simple system (say the collision between two billiard balls), if I play a video of them colliding and you don't know beforehand if it's playing regularly or in reverse, you will not be able to tell if it's playing in reverse or not. This is an example of how the emergent property of entropy is the cause for our perception of time.

That's kinda sorta got it. We don't go into that dark night without a fight, but we will go into that dark night. Girly hugs the Id. Where you been big fella? ... someone gotta keep an eye on this big fella 'cause dude ain't stupid.

[MindForgedManacle]

Lolwut? I can babble too:


It's time Gotham got the hero it needs, not the one it deserves. The hero that I think... we think... because it's time to deserve... a hero...for Gotham. Rawr.

[GirlyMan]

Lolwut? I can babble too:

What's stopping you? ... I like babble. I'm real fucking good at babble. A natural and shit.Got babble credentals and shit.

[Mudhammam]

Thanks for having the ability to clarify, MFM, and for not coming across as a pretentious douche.

[MindForgedManacle]

Dammit, that's what I was going for! No problem. Not sure if I did it justice, but I tried.

[GirlyMan]

Thanks for having the ability to clarify, MFM, and for not coming across as a pretentious douche.

Goddam, Girly responding to passive aggressive and shit, Girly's got this shit.



and to just kick your ass ...



Yeah. Bring it bitch.

[MindForgedManacle]

To try and do a little better, I'll offer this: consider a traffic jam. It is not found in any single car, but it is a property that emerges given a large enough amount of them and a sufficiently disordered state of them, hence a traffic jam could be said to be an emergent phenomenon.

[GirlyMan]

To try and do a little better, I'll offer this: consider a traffic jam. It is not found in any single car, but it is a property that emerges given a large enough amount of them and a sufficiently disordered state of them, hence a traffic jam could be said to be an emergent phenomenon.

Science Says Your Soul is Like a Traffic Jam. ... fucking science and shit.