Mother Theresa - Servant of the Devil?

[ideologue08]

Abortion is not murder - it and conterception impower women and helpt them gain equal rights.

Do you think it's "equal rights" for a woman to be the sole decider if the embryo is flushed out or not?

[Something completely different]

Do you think it's "equal rights" for a woman to be the sole decider if the embryo is flushed out or not?

certainly.

Most certainly if she is under 18, or has been raped which is common in islamic countries.

Does anyone see the hypocrisy here?

Any publication exploring a living God is WRONG... yet any "whoodoo" lip-licking, crayon scribing writer that chooses to cut-up a proven saint is right on the mark!

where is the hypocracy!?

Is it because I am not a native english speaker or does this post make no sence to anyone else?????

Get a life boys...instead of mocking one of the great humanitarians of our era!

Hardly a great humanitarian, My granduncles also watched civilians die, in a SS uniform in Russia.

If she would have done anything to combat poverty, then we may talk about the word humanitarian again

How many Lepers have you hugged today?

None. Because it is unhygenic and unreasonable due to the risk of infection.

I would take him to a hospital and make sure he gets treatment by doctors who have been scientificaly educated.

Which...... you know........ works!

[Mystical]

I find it telling that all the Catholics have to say on the subject is, "quit talkin!"

Perhaps you might post proof that she actually did something of humanitarian nature with her money? Just a suggestion.
But then, that would've been your first movement wouldn't it?

If you can't do that, why are you so vehemently defending an embezzling sadist to be one of your 'Saints'? If that's whom you consider to be a Saint--the best you got--then I am not only sickened, I'm angered. Not at her, but at you. How come you'd rather proudly deny truth than admit you were wrong in this case? And you guys wonder why athiests are brash with you?

Do you think it's "equal rights" for a woman to be the sole decider if the embryo is flushed out or not?

If the father abandons it, sure. Say some guy unloads during a sexual encounter and never calls her to see if she's pregnant? That's him,
assuming she'd take care of it. The responsibility falls to the woman, so the decisions do as well. Any reasonable human being would say that if the
father doesn't want her to have the abortion then there should be steps he can take to protect it. We aren't monsters. You on the other hand... well, I'll leave that up for debate as to whether or not you can reconcile your conscience with your belief system.

[Minimalist]

Abortion is not murder - it and conterception impower women and helpt them gain equal rights

You can't expect a shady outfit like the fucking church to be in favor of that, can you?

[Justtristo]

I know Christians who believe that Mother Theresa is right now burning in hell, I kid you not. Because they reason that you are going to hell, if you say to god you were saved by means other Jesus sacrifice on the cross.

[ronedee]

Does anyone see the hypocrisy here?

Any publication exploring a living God is WRONG... yet any "whoodoo" lip-licking, crayon scribing writer that chooses to cut-up a proven saint is right on the mark!

where is the hypocracy!?

Is it because I am not a native english speaker or does this post make no sence to anyone else?????

Ok....let me make it atheistically simple for you. Where is the proof?

Hardly a great humanitarian, My granduncles also watched civilians die, in a SS uniform in Russia.

If she would have done anything to combat poverty, then we may talk about the word humanitarian again

they "watched"?!

and....feeding, clothing and housing the poor and sick isn't combating poverty??????!!!! What country/planet are you from again? Do you know even know who Mother Theresa is?!

How many Lepers have you hugged today?

None. Because it is unhygenic and unreasonable due to the risk of infection.

I would take him to a hospital and make sure he gets treatment by doctors who have been scientificaly educated.

Which...... you know........ works!

"would" help them? but... there's none in your neighborhood. Your car is on the blink...you'll be out of town that week....youre sick with a cold...etc?

I know your intuition and/or comprehension is lacking so I'll spell it out for you...

Mother Teresa did more for the sick & poor in ONE DAY than YOU or a population of others including myself, has done in decades!

So, pick on a better target for your pompous self righteousness rants. Unless you have "proof" in any form of that heresay, its lies!

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I find it telling that all the Catholics have to say on the subject is, "quit talkin!"

Perhaps you might post proof that she actually did something of humanitarian nature with her money? Just a suggestion.
But then, that would've been your first movement wouldn't it?

If you can't do that, why are you so vehemently defending an embezzling sadist to be one of your 'Saints'? If that's whom you consider to be a Saint--the best you got--then I am not only sickened, I'm angered. Not at her, but at you. How come you'd rather proudly deny truth than admit you were wrong in this case? And you guys wonder why athiests are brash with you?

"with her money" "embezzling sadist"???????????

"deny truth"????????????????????

Again the hypocrisy! Full faith in some author, somewhere (WITH NO PROOF) looking to make buck...NOTHING for God, with volumes written!

[Minimalist]

Just another catholic criminal.....

http://mostlywater.org/mother_teresa_fai..._hypocrite

What usually went unreported were the vast sums she received from wealthy and sometimes tainted sources, including a million dollars from convicted savings & loan swindler Charles Keating, on whose behalf she sent a personal plea for clemency to the presiding judge. She was asked by the prosecutor in that case to return Keating's gift because it was money he had stolen. She never did.[1] She also accepted substantial sums given by the brutal Duvalier dictatorship that regularly stole from the Haitian public treasury.

Mother Teresa's hospitals for the indigent in India and elsewhere turned
out to be hardly more than human warehouses in which seriously ill
persons lay on mats, sometimes fifty to sixty in a room without benefit
of adequate medical attention. Their ailments usually went undiagnosed.
The food was nutritionally lacking and sanitary conditions were
deplorable. There were few medical personnel on the premises, mostly
untrained nuns and brothers.[2]

When tending to her own ailments, however, Teresa checked into some of the costliest hospitals and recovery care units in the world for
state-of-the-art treatment.[3]

Fuck her.

[ronedee]

Just another catholic criminal.....

http://mostlywater.org/mother_teresa_fai..._hypocrite

What usually went unreported were the vast sums she received from wealthy and sometimes tainted sources, including a million dollars from convicted savings & loan swindler Charles Keating, on whose behalf she sent a personal plea for clemency to the presiding judge. She was asked by the prosecutor in that case to return Keating's gift because it was money he had stolen. She never did.[1] She also accepted substantial sums given by the brutal Duvalier dictatorship that regularly stole from the Haitian public treasury.

Mother Teresa's hospitals for the indigent in India and elsewhere turned
out to be hardly more than human warehouses in which seriously ill
persons lay on mats, sometimes fifty to sixty in a room without benefit
of adequate medical attention. Their ailments usually went undiagnosed.
The food was nutritionally lacking and sanitary conditions were
deplorable. There were few medical personnel on the premises, mostly
untrained nuns and brothers.[2]

When tending to her own ailments, however, Teresa checked into some of the costliest hospitals and recovery care units in the world for
state-of-the-art treatment.[3]

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2 sources for ALL this hogwash: Chatterjee, Hitchens.

Both friends, both authors, both documentary producers, both physicians, both hate catholicism, both made money on this BS, Chatterjee and Hitchens were the only two official hostile witnesses to Church procedures for the beatification of Mother Teresa in 2003.

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Reviews [wikipedia/hitchens]
In The London Review of Books Amit Chaudhuri praised the book, "Hitchens’s investigations have been a solitary and courageous endeavour. The book is extremely well-written, with a sanity and sympathy that tempers its irony." However he commented that the portrait "is in danger of assuming the one-dimensionality of the Mother Teresa of her admirers", and that he finished the book without much more of an idea of the character and motivations of Mother Teresa.[2]

The San Francisco Bay Guardian says: "Anyone with ambivalent feelings about the influence of Catholic dogma (especially concerning sex and procreation); about the media's manufacture of images; or about what one can, should or shouldn't do for someone less fortunate, should read this book."[3] In 1996, The New York Times published a favourable review by Bruno Maddox in which he says: "Mr. Hitchens, a columnist at Vanity Fair and The Nation, is rather convincing" and "Hitchens argues his case with consummate style".[4]

The Sunday Times says: "A dirty job but someone had to do it. By the end of this elegantly written, brilliantly argued piece of polemic, it is not looking good for Mother Teresa."[3] Also in 1996, a critical review of the book was penned by William A. Donohue, president of The Catholic League, who comments: "If this sounds like nonsense, well, it is."[5]

Replying to a positive review of Hitchens' book in the New York Review of Books by Murray Kempton, Jesuit author James Martin offered a defense of Mother Teresa against the criticisms brought against her. Noting the difficulties involved with offering aid to the destitute in the developing world, he concluded by writing, "[R]egarding the 'poorest of the poor,' those who today die neglected, there would seem to be two choices. First, to cluck one’s tongue that such a group of people should even exist. Second, to act: to provide comfort and solace to these individuals as they face death. Mr. Kempton chooses the former. Mother Teresa, for all of her faults, chooses the latter."[6] In another letter in the same issue, literary critic and sinologist Simon Leys criticised Hitchens' portrayal of Mother Teresa, stating, "Bashing an elderly nun under an obscene label does not seem to be a particularly brave or stylish thing to do. Besides, it appears that the attacks which are being directed at Mother Teresa all boil down to one single crime: she endeavors to be a Christian, in the most literal sense of the word—which is (and always was, and will always remain) a most improper and unacceptable undertaking in this world."[6] Hitchens replied to Leys' letter in a subsequent issue,"[6] and Leys in turn defended his original stance, writing that Hitchens' book "contain[ed] a remarkable number of howlers on elementary aspects of Christianity" and accusing Hitchens of "a complete ignorance of the position of the Catholic Church on the issues of marriage, divorce, and remarriage" and a "strong and vehement distaste for Mother Teresa."[7]
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Everything written is based on Mother Teresa'a apparent knowledge of the reputaton of people donating. And that she was an expert banker, and administrator!

No, MT was a soldier for Jesus. People in her care were DYING. They were the poorest of poor, the sickest of sick! The ones the hospitals, and police left to die in the streets!

Does anyone think she was worried about who were the dictators or corrupt businessmen that wanted to clear their consciences by giving to these poorest of the poor? Does anyone think she was counting her money in the basement of her mansion?

You have two (2) sources for that BS... two... who CLEARLY made millions on bashing her, and had an agenda...and just because of a few cracks in her history of 60 YEARS helping the least fortunate!

"the vultures will gather around the dead."

[Anomalocaris]

Apparently she was a creepy woman who adored to be around the suffering, and did what she could to enhance that experience.

Less than surprising in one alledgedly devoted to the cult of adoration of a tortured and crucified man.

[Mystical]

Reviews
In The London Review of Books Amit Chaudhuri praised the book, "Hitchens’s investigations have been a solitary and courageous endeavour. The book is extremely well-written, with a sanity and sympathy that tempers its irony." However he commented that the portrait "is in danger of assuming the one-dimensionality of the Mother Teresa of her admirers", and that he finished the book without much more of an idea of the character and motivations of Mother Teresa.[2]

I don't read shit without a reference provided.