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RE: Mother Theresa - Servant of the Devil?
March 8, 2013 at 2:18 pm
(March 8, 2013 at 1:45 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: Quote:Reviews
In The London Review of Books Amit Chaudhuri praised the book, "Hitchens’s investigations have been a solitary and courageous endeavour. The book is extremely well-written, with a sanity and sympathy that tempers its irony." However he commented that the portrait "is in danger of assuming the one-dimensionality of the Mother Teresa of her admirers", and that he finished the book without much more of an idea of the character and motivations of Mother Teresa.[2]
I don't read shit without a reference provided.
translation? = I don't want truth.
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RE: Mother Theresa - Servant of the Devil?
March 8, 2013 at 2:38 pm
Labels don't mean shit. Evolution produces a range of cruelty and compassion, opportunism and cooperation. Anyone who thinks boarders or politics or religion or labels makes them special in a 14 billion year old universe that will continue long after we go extinct has their head up their ass.
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RE: Mother Theresa - Servant of the Devil?
March 8, 2013 at 2:41 pm
(March 8, 2013 at 2:18 pm)ronedee Wrote: (March 8, 2013 at 1:45 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I don't read shit without a reference provided.
translation? = I don't want truth.
Translation: give a reference or I'll assume it's from "why they be hatin on us Catholics.com"
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Mother Theresa - Servant of the Devil?
March 8, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Quote:2 sources for ALL this hogwash: Chatterjee, Hitchens.
And who do you expect to blow the whistle on this criminal cunt, buddy? Mr. Pedo-pope who ignored all sorts of criminality in his church while trying to make her a fucking "saint?" Your mafia church does not work that way. Its job is to produce holy bullshit to awe the dolts who insist on it. Look in a mirror for an example.
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RE: Mother Theresa - Servant of the Devil?
March 8, 2013 at 2:54 pm
(March 8, 2013 at 2:41 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: (March 8, 2013 at 2:18 pm)ronedee Wrote: translation? = I don't want truth.
Translation: give a reference or I'll assume it's from "why they be hatin on us Catholics.com"
That is what theists think. The "hate" is not at humans, but our species ability to utter naked assertions, all labels aside.
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RE: Mother Theresa - Servant of the Devil?
March 8, 2013 at 3:17 pm
(March 8, 2013 at 2:18 pm)ronedee Wrote: (March 8, 2013 at 1:45 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I don't read shit without a reference provided.
translation? = I don't want truth.
The evidence is that despite Mother Teresa raising literally millions of pounds the plight of the patients in her "care" did not improve. this in a country where the cost of everything is much less.
Quote:The quality of care offered to terminally ill patients in the Homes for the Dying has been criticised as a poor establishment in the medical press, notably The Lancet and the British Medical Journal (BMJ). They reported the re-use of hypodermic needles[citation needed], poor living conditions, cold baths for all patients, and an approach to illness and suffering that ignores such elements of modern medical care as systematic diagnosis.[5] Dr. Robin Fox, editor of The Lancet, described the medical care as "haphazard", as volunteers without medical knowledge made decisions about patient care because of the lack of doctors. He observed that the Congregation did not seem to distinguish between curable and incurable patients, so that people who could otherwise survive would be at risk of dying from infections and lack of treatment.[6] The spending of the donations has also been criticised. The author and journalist Christopher Hitchens and the German magazine Stern have alleged that Mother Teresa did not focus the money on alleviating poverty or improving the conditions of her hospices, but on opening new convents and increasing missionary work.[7]
Note that there was mention of criticism by the British Medical Journal , the Lancet and Stern for the treatment provided.
That makes 5 sources so far.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionaries_of_Charity
From the new statesman.
Quote:“Earlier in the day, young international volunteers had giggled as one told how a young boy had peed on her while strapped to a bed. I had already been told of an older disturbed woman tied to a tree at another Missionaries of Charity home. At the orphanage, few of the volunteers batted an eyelid at disabled children being tied up. They were too intoxicated with the myth of Mother Teresa and drunk on their own philanthropy to see that such treatment of children was inhumane and degrading.” (“The Squalid Truth behind the Legacy of Mother Teresa”)
6 sources and counting.
This from free inquiry magazine.
http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/f..._18_1.html
Quote:Three of Mother Teresa's teachings that are fundamental to her religious congregation are all the more dangerous because they are believed so sincerely by her sisters. Most basic is the belief that as long as a sister obeys she is doing God's will. Another is the belief that the sisters have leverage over God by choosing to suffer. Their suffering makes God very happy. He then dispenses more graces to humanity. The third is the belief that any attachment to human beings, even the poor being served, supposedly interferes with love of God and must be vigilantly avoided or immediately uprooted. The efforts to prevent any attachments cause continual chaos and confusion, movement and change in the congregation. Mother Teresa did not invent these beliefs - they were prevalent in religious congregations before Vatican II - but she did everything in her power (which was great) to enforce them.
Once a sister has accepted these fallacies she will do almost anything. She can allow her health to be destroyed, neglect those she vowed to serve, and switch off her feelings and independent thought. She can turn a blind eye to suffering, inform on her fellow sisters, tell lies with ease, and ignore public laws and regulations.
7 sources so far.
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RE: Mother Theresa - Servant of the Devil?
March 8, 2013 at 3:20 pm
(March 8, 2013 at 2:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:2 sources for ALL this hogwash: Chatterjee, Hitchens.
And who do you expect to blow the whistle .......?
Someone better than the accused, for starters.
But, lets be real here for a moment. This isn't about getting facts about anything. This is about defaming Christians, and Catholics in particular.
Any tool, sharp or dull is useful in your pursuit of self-gratification in persecution. Any means possible to try and remove any good, that most Christians adhere to.
To make many suffer for the sins of a few is your mission. If the apple has a bruise on it.....throw the whole thing away!
But.... you see (in your mirror), you don't really care about anything more than your own fear and anger about death. That's the real truth.
And that's the real reason you and others are here.
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RE: Mother Theresa - Servant of the Devil?
March 8, 2013 at 3:28 pm
(March 8, 2013 at 3:20 pm)ronedee Wrote: To make many suffer for the sins of a few is your mission. If the apple has a bruise on it.....throw the whole thing away!
Sounds an awful lot like what your God did to humanity.
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RE: Mother Theresa - Servant of the Devil?
March 8, 2013 at 3:30 pm
(March 8, 2013 at 3:20 pm)ronedee Wrote: (March 8, 2013 at 2:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And who do you expect to blow the whistle .......?
Someone better than the accused, for starters.
But, lets be real here for a moment. This isn't about getting facts about anything. This is about defaming Christians, and Catholics in particular.
Any tool, sharp or dull is useful in your pursuit of self-gratification in persecution. Any means possible to try and remove any good, that most Christians adhere to.
To make many suffer for the sins of a few is your mission. If the apple has a bruise on it.....throw the whole thing away!
But.... you see (in your mirror), you don't really care about anything more than your own fear and anger about death. That's the real truth.
And that's the real reason you and others are here.
BULLSHIT! Of course atheist fear death, BUT not in the same context. We fear pain, and we fear not having our loved ones. What we don't do that Catholics and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists and any other afterlife superstitious bullshit humans concoct, what we don't do is assign the seasons changing to magic.
Death is a part of life like winter changing into spring. I don't want to die anymore than you do. But it will happen. I don't make up bullshit fantasy to explain reality.
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RE: Mother Theresa - Servant of the Devil?
March 8, 2013 at 3:39 pm
(March 8, 2013 at 3:30 pm)Brian37 Wrote: BULLSHIT! Of course atheist fear death, BUT not in the same context. We fear pain, and we fear not having our loved ones. What we don't do that Catholics and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists and any other afterlife superstitious bullshit humans concoct, what we don't do is assign the seasons changing to magic.
Death is a part of life like winter changing into spring. I don't want to die anymore than you do. But it will happen. I don't make up bullshit fantasy to explain reality.
I fear dying and I'd miss life, but I can't say that death holds any fear for me. Why should it? it is non-existence that I wont feel or know anything about.
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