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How do you know God isn't dead?

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How do you know God isn't dead?
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RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
April 29, 2013 at 6:00 pm
I always thought that gremlins were the root cause for all kind of mechanical and electric/electronic failures, not just watches...
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RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
April 29, 2013 at 6:01 pm
There you are, you see - the evidence is overwhelming!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
April 29, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Indeed.... now, if we could just catch one of those buggers!!!
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RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
April 29, 2013 at 6:17 pm
You know anything else that causes existence?
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RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
April 29, 2013 at 6:30 pm
You know anything else that causes watches to break?

You see, it makes no odds what we may or may not know, or what our opinions might be on the matter. You formed your argument (or whatever these damn things are called) by starting with the conclusion you were trying to support. That's not a defensible position.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
April 29, 2013 at 7:03 pm
And we know that gremlins exist:

[Image: 6-warner-falling-hare-bugs-bunny-gremlin.jpeg]
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
April 29, 2013 at 8:18 pm
(April 29, 2013 at 5:07 pm)Tex Wrote: God causes things to exist... so since they're still existing... I'm going to assuming he's still working.

You're only assuming he causes things to exist, so points for consistency, I guess.
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RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
April 29, 2013 at 8:30 pm
(April 29, 2013 at 6:30 pm)Stimbo Wrote: You know anything else that causes watches to break?

You see, it makes no odds what we may or may not know, or what our opinions might be on the matter. You formed your argument (or whatever these damn things are called) by starting with the conclusion you were trying to support. That's not a defensible position.

I formed the argument on the basis that "stuff exists". Is this being contested?

(April 29, 2013 at 8:18 pm)Ryantology Wrote:
(April 29, 2013 at 5:07 pm)Tex Wrote: God causes things to exist... so since they're still existing... I'm going to assuming he's still working.

You're only assuming he causes things to exist, so points for consistency, I guess.

Why don't you argue against me any more? You did in the "soul" thread, and now you've stopped. I don't understand? It was fun arguing with you. Now you just make comments that barely apply to the situation because you feel better when you insult me.
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RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
April 29, 2013 at 8:47 pm
(April 29, 2013 at 8:30 pm)Tex Wrote: pid='438465' dateline='1367281099']

Why don't you argue against me any more? You did in the "soul" thread, and now you've stopped. I don't understand? It was fun arguing with you. Now you just make comments that barely apply to the situation because you feel better when you insult me.

I think you already know the answer to that question Tex…Smile

Your approach to this thread is very strong, since the OP assumes that God did exist (in order for something to be dead it must have been living by definition), you simply took one of God’s attributes (upholding His creation through His grace) and worked backwards from that to demonstrate God must therefore still be living because His creation is still being upheld. Other approaches could have also been, since belief in God requires application of God’s grace by God, we know God still lives because there are still those who believe in Him. Additionally, since the OP assumes God exists and since being eternal is by definition one of God’s attributes we know He is not dead because by definition He cannot die. The original question is rather absurd because it is inconsistent with its starting premises.
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RE: How do you know God isn't dead?
April 29, 2013 at 8:49 pm
Bingo!
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