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May 21, 2013 at 3:10 pm
(May 21, 2013 at 3:05 pm)Ryantology Wrote: (May 21, 2013 at 2:44 pm)Drich Wrote: None are in effect as a means to righteousness. If you do not understand what that means then ask a question.
Okay. My question is "why didn't you answer my question?". Because you asked an invalid question. You assumed one part of the law carries over and you were looking for scriptural support to undergird this assumption. When I told you none of the law carries over as a means to righteousness I thought you would see how your question then became invalid, thus not requiring an answer from me.
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May 21, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Havent you heard the goodnews, Drich? The law doesnt matter, you need not worry about it anymore. We're all saved no matter what. 
Goodnews:
God will save ALL His people, yes, even the ones here on this forum who hate Him, and the ones who say they love him, yet choose to believe the evil doctrins of men, instead of these scriptures below
1 Timothy 2:4 + 2:6 + 4:10 Philippians 2:9-11 Ephesians 1:10 1 Corinthians 3:15 + 15:22 + 15: 26 & 28 11 Corinthians 5:18-19 John 3:17 + 12:32 1 John 2:2 + 4:14 etc etc there is no hell, how can there be, as we are ALL TO BE SAVED ! go figar
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If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
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RE: Homosexuality is a sin? Well, Xtians, what about these other 76 things?
May 21, 2013 at 4:18 pm
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(May 21, 2013 at 3:10 pm)Drich Wrote: Because you asked an invalid question. You assumed one part of the law carries over and you were looking for scriptural support to undergird this assumption. When I told you none of the law carries over as a means to righteousness I thought you would see how your question then became invalid, thus not requiring an answer from me.
I assumed nothing. I see nothing in the Bible which says anything about which laws, if any, are no longer in effect. Matt 5 says that they are all in effect until all is accomplished and Heaven and Earth passes away. While Heaven doesn't exist, the earth is still very much here. All of the events predicted in Revelation have yet to occur, so all is obviously not yet accomplished. I'm just curious to know which chapter/verse in the Bible contradicts this so grandly that you believe that the law no longer has to be followed in spite of how obviously wrong that position is, considering all the requirements Jesus laid out which have not yet been met.
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May 21, 2013 at 4:26 pm
(May 21, 2013 at 4:18 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I assumed nothing. I see nothing in the Bible which says anything about which laws, if any, are no longer in effect. Matt 5 says that they are all in effect until all is accomplished and Heaven and Earth passes away. While Heaven doesn't exist, the earth is still very much here. All of the events predicted in Revelation have yet to occur, so all is obviously not yet accomplished. I'm just curious to know which chapter/verse in the Bible contradicts this so grandly that you believe that the law no longer has to be followed in spite of how obviously wrong that position is, considering all the requirements Jesus laid out which have not yet been met. The law never applied to Gentiles.
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RE: Homosexuality is a sin? Well, Xtians, what about these other 76 things?
May 21, 2013 at 4:32 pm
(May 21, 2013 at 3:10 pm)Drich Wrote: (May 21, 2013 at 3:05 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Okay. My question is "why didn't you answer my question?". Because you asked an invalid question. You assumed one part of the law carries over and you were looking for scriptural support to undergird this assumption. When I told you none of the law carries over as a means to righteousness I thought you would see how your question then became invalid, thus not requiring an answer from me.
He didn't assume anything. He was asking you to justify the assumption you made when you said this:
Quote:Take note that under the new covenant established by Christ and outlined in the NT of the bible, only the Moral law is used as a guide to determine who is a follower of Christ, and subsequently saved by Grace, and not through our works so no man can boast.
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May 21, 2013 at 4:35 pm
(May 21, 2013 at 4:26 pm)John V Wrote: (May 21, 2013 at 4:18 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I assumed nothing. I see nothing in the Bible which says anything about which laws, if any, are no longer in effect. Matt 5 says that they are all in effect until all is accomplished and Heaven and Earth passes away. While Heaven doesn't exist, the earth is still very much here. All of the events predicted in Revelation have yet to occur, so all is obviously not yet accomplished. I'm just curious to know which chapter/verse in the Bible contradicts this so grandly that you believe that the law no longer has to be followed in spite of how obviously wrong that position is, considering all the requirements Jesus laid out which have not yet been met. The law never applied to Gentiles.
How come fucking jesus didn't seem to know that?
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May 21, 2013 at 4:37 pm
No one has demonstrated that he didn't seem to know that.
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May 21, 2013 at 4:41 pm
(May 21, 2013 at 4:26 pm)John V Wrote: The law never applied to Gentiles.
Why did God repeatedly order the mass murder of Gentiles in the OT, then?
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May 21, 2013 at 4:50 pm
(May 21, 2013 at 4:41 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Why did God repeatedly order the mass murder of Gentiles in the OT, then? For sin apart from the law. Have you guys ever read the Bible?
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May 21, 2013 at 6:36 pm
(May 21, 2013 at 4:09 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: Havent you heard the goodnews, Drich? The law doesnt matter, you need not worry about it anymore. We're all saved no matter what.
Goodnews:
God will save ALL His people, yes, even the ones here on this forum who hate Him, and the ones who say they love him, yet choose to believe the evil doctrins of men, instead of these scriptures below
1 Timothy 2:4 + 2:6 + 4:10 Philippians 2:9-11 Ephesians 1:10 1 Corinthians 3:15 + 15:22 + 15: 26 & 28 11 Corinthians 5:18-19 John 3:17 + 12:32 1 John 2:2 + 4:14 etc etc there is no hell, how can there be, as we are ALL TO BE SAVED ! go figar
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