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Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
(June 6, 2013 at 4:09 am)apophenia Wrote:


"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Ghandi



They shot him, didn't they?
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
(June 6, 2013 at 8:35 am)John V Wrote: Hmm, that's what John V said pages ago...
Thinking

Only read the first post and first page... I usually read further, but the lack of issue people were having with it was a little much for me Tongue

Deists are frogs, by the way.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
(June 6, 2013 at 2:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(June 6, 2013 at 4:09 am)apophenia Wrote:


"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Ghandi



They shot him, didn't they?

Damn waste.
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
(June 6, 2013 at 3:27 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Only read the first post and first page...
Oops, my comment wasn't really directed at you. Point was that people freak out when I say something, but when you or apo say the same thing, well, then it's OK. I shoulda made that clear. So, I will give you a
Tiger
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
(June 6, 2013 at 3:40 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(June 6, 2013 at 2:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: They shot him, didn't they?

Damn waste.

Well, he was a racist nes pas?

John you said more than that don't play. You zero'd in on one point in the OPs comment obsessively focused on that claiming it was his intent.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
(June 6, 2013 at 4:35 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: John you said more than that don't play. You zero'd in on one point in the OPs comment obsessively focused on that claiming it was his intent.
I refused to accept revisionist history and red herrings. If you want to spin that as an obsessive focus cause you're mad that I was right, well, OK, whatever.
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
(June 6, 2013 at 4:35 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:
(June 6, 2013 at 3:40 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Damn waste.

Well, he was a racist nes pas?

Really? He wanted India back for it's own people, and tried to get them together. I really admire his pacifism. The guy was a hero. I'll go research what you say Wink
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
Yeah I dont deny he didn't have a good side but I also read he didn't like the Africans, and did like the little girls. But hey I don't believe everything I readWink

(June 6, 2013 at 4:47 pm)John V Wrote:
(June 6, 2013 at 4:35 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: John you said more than that don't play. You zero'd in on one point in the OPs comment obsessively focused on that claiming it was his intent.
I refused to accept revisionist history and red herrings. If you want to spin that as an obsessive focus cause you're mad that I was right, well, OK, whatever.

I didn't say you were right did I? Nope. I said it was embarrassing that you weren't addressing his actual point, you saw STFU and claimed that that was his point when his point was clearly not 'newbies stfu' it was, 'lets move past the same tired arguments, here they are now get past it cuz I'm tired of talking about the same shit in circles with you.' Get the point?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
(June 6, 2013 at 5:08 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: Yeah I dont deny he didn't have a good side but I also read he didn't like the Africans, and did like the little girls. But hey I don't believe everything I readWink

I just read the wikipedia page on him. Nothing bad there. In fact I'm a bigger fan.

He didn't like the South African racist regime, no. He triumphed against it, peacefully. He married a child bride as a child himself, as was the custom (he was 13, she was 14). The guy was an inspiration and way ahead of his time. Even today the caste system and female oppression still exist and this guy was fighting it 100 years ago.
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
(June 6, 2013 at 2:21 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(June 6, 2013 at 12:45 pm)John V Wrote: They're not Muslims.

They are part of "atheists and other non-cultists" by DP's definition of cult, though, so what in the world is your point?

You got it. He's not a Muslim. You're ike a razor.

If anyone needs any clarification on this point, deism is like atheism but with poetic flourishes.

I don't even correct anyone who says I'm an atheist. The hair-splitting distinction is more than anyone who uses the word "atheist" as a pejorative will be able to comprehend anyway.
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