One question for Christians

[Esquilax]

The punishment for sin is death.

So if I go through life without sinning, I'd be immortal?

I know that the game is configured in such a way as to make that task nearly impossible, and that's its own little slice of problematic, but let's all play the hypothetical game for a bit, yeah?

Or would I, sinless until the last, die just the same as anyone else?

[Searching4truth]

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The punishment for sin is death.
But after death comes the judgment of where that person.
If saved then that person goes to heaven to be with Jesus Christ.

You are saying that we are punished for sin, then judged for our sins, then punished or rewarded for our sin. If the wages of sin is death, then that is paid upon death. Any additional reward or punishment is arbitrary. If acceptance of Christ's sacrifice cleanses a person of sin, then they need not die at all and are unfairly punished with death, in which case the sacrifice of Jesus is superfluous-- god would owe them something anyway. It still doesn't make sense.

As to the crucifixion, it is hardly a small penalty.

It is, to a being who has existed for infinite time both before and after. Thirty three years? Three days? Six hours? None of those matter to a being who has always existed. Think of the biggest number you can. Say a trillion trillion trillion years. God is older than that, and will exist for longer than that going forward. The amount of time he suffered compared to the amount of time he has been alive is so short it may as well not even have happened.

Suffering the most hideous torture for a few hours isn't pleasant, but knowing that you're just a few hours from returning to your position as the most powerful being in all of existence probably took just a bit of the edge off of it. Especially knowing that you could return the treatment to your tormentors an infinity-fold. Good thing Yahweh isn't a vengeful god!

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[The Reality Salesman01]

You could always use the kudos button to express your agreement with his post.

[Cyberman]

That works even better and saves me having to mop up the mess.

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

The punishment for sin is death.

So if I go through life without sinning, I'd be immortal?

I know that the game is configured in such a way as to make that task nearly impossible, and that's its own little slice of problematic, but let's all play the hypothetical game for a bit, yeah?

Or would I, sinless until the last, die just the same as anyone else?

Have you sinned?

Of course.

So do not worry about the hypothetical.

[Searching4truth]

Good point TS and Stimbo.... it wont hurt you to use a mop once in awhile, but I'll make it easier on you from now on.

[Cyberman]

Have you sinned?

Of course.

So do not worry about the hypothetical.

But that's the shell game, isn't it? Everyone is broken according to the standards of the dogma in question, either through actions and thoughts in life or simply by virtue of being born. "Created sick and ordered to be well", as the immortal Hitch had it. Along comes the salesman to sell you the concept of redemption and if you sign up now you get the gift of eternal life absolutely free!*

*(Disclaimer: "absolutely free" is not a guarantee. Costs to your opinions of others will be excessive and costs to other areas of your life, especially critical thinking skills, will be considerably more. Your mileage will vary. The chances of your eternal redemption can go down as well as up.)

[Brakeman]

So if I go through life without sinning, I'd be immortal?..

Have you sinned?

Of course.

So do not worry about the hypothetical.

Hypothetical - Not a word theists should use too much!

hy·po·thet·i·cal
adjective \ˌhī-pə-ˈthe-ti-kəl\

: involving or based on a suggested idea or theory : involving or based on a hypothesis

: not real : imagined as an example

Your whole god view is HYPOTHETICAL, as it is not real, and completely imagined without any evidence.

[catfish]

Only God could do it.

Do what, atone for sin? Read Isaiah 6:7.

But Jesus Christ is not only fully God, but fully man.

But that is still human sacrifice and that was a pagan tradition. In essence, Mary and everyone who accepts this sacrifice is guilty of "sending their children through the fire".

Still never sinned for 33 years.

Then why would he answer thusly?
Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18 and Luke 18:19?

Went through a very tough death.

Yes, but I'd wager it was "because" of 'our' sins and not "for" them.

Bore the penalty and guilt of all sins.

Which would totally nullify the OT verses: Deuteronomy 24:16 and 2 Kings 14:6 and contradict Yeshua's words here:
Mark 12:33
To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”.

None of it is His punishment, but our punishment.

Deuteronomy 24:16 and 2 Kings 14:6

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Your whole god view is HYPOTHETICAL, as it is not real, and completely imagined without any evidence.

Proof of claim?

[DeistPaladin]

God is holy and must punish sin.

The Bible says that:
"the wages of sin is death" (Romans 3:23)

After death, comes judgment before God.

The sacrifice of blood represents that death penalty.

So the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is to pay for our sins, so those that trust Him as Saviour have all their sins, paid for and forgiven.

Jesus is a substitue to take our place. He pays fro our sins and gives everlasting life to those that believe.

Mr. Lambert is perfectly normal except he can't bear hearing the word "mattress".

"Apart from that, he's really all right" (Monte Python Video 1:44)

After hearing the word "mattress", Mr. Lambert must put a bag over his head.

The bag over he head represents ...something to Mr. Lambert I'm sure.

So naturally Mr. Veret must get into the tea chest and sing. So that Mr. Lambert may remove the bag over his head.

Mr. Veret singing in the tea chest is the substitute for the bag over Mr. Lambert's head, allowing Mr. Lambert to remove the bag.

But just don't say "mattress" to Mr. Lambert.