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Egypt - Army seizes power.
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RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
(July 5, 2013 at 1:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Allow me to introduce you to Detroit.

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Ah, yes. The rust belt.

They keep moving down here to Houston:

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RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
(July 5, 2013 at 12:12 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(July 4, 2013 at 7:59 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Egypt, nowadays.

Yes.
However, according to the last election in Egypt, over 50% of the people supports a secular government...
They have managed to keep their very precious museum going, got pieces back that foreigners had stolen taken and Egypt as a whole is was thriving, in spite of having islam as the majority religion.
A lot of the younger generations speak a second language, typically, English and surf the web... like me or anyone in Europe (except in the UK).

I'd say that they're ready for it... and this is the perfect opportunity to implement a religion free constitution and religion free government, with safeguards to prevent religion to seep into it... unlike what's happening in the US, where I hear some people are putting a lot of effort to get public schools to teach about creationism.
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The rust belt is rusting because the capitalists moved their jobs to Banglafuckingdesh...where if the factories collapse on the workers they don't have to even pretend to give a shit.
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(July 4, 2013 at 2:40 pm)pocaracas Wrote: It's brutally simple, what they should do after the "muslim brotherhood" fiasco.
Forbid any religious political party.
Total separation of church and state.... as it was elsewhere... centuries ago... it's the way of the future.
Which will never happen until they change their entire Islamic ideology. Which will never happen... I know, so optimistic.
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RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
(July 5, 2013 at 12:57 pm)Rahul Wrote: Communist country:

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Capitalist country:

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Did you really imagine scenes analogous to the last two image would not be easy to find in the countries where the first two images were taken?
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RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
(July 5, 2013 at 3:57 pm)Chuck Wrote: Did you really imagine scenes analogous to the last two image would not be easy to find in the countries where the first two images were taken?

Huh? North Korea ain't got shit compared to South Korea. It's a nation of starving peasants.

You can compare West and East Germany before the reunification as well.

Communism sucks balls.
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#27
RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
Any political movement (such as the Muslim Brotherhood) which advocates the overthrown by any means of a democratic secular system of government, along with equality for all under the law should be banned.

Freedom of speech and assembly be damned in this circumstance.
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I just know that since him and the "brotherhood" took over tourism has pretty much stopped. And I always wanted to go see the pyramids. Sad
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RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
North Korea and South Korea have one thing in common: They're both poor as fuck.

It's just South Korea hides it behind a mountain of credit debt, and North Korea is open about it.

As far as Egypt goes...*sighs* Yeah...I'm not surprised.

(July 4, 2013 at 6:20 pm)cratehorus Wrote: let's just kill everyone who isn't communist, anyone who is muslim christian or whatever should be killed

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Seriously, you are the biggest fucking waste of bandwidth on this forum, and considering some of the others on this forum, that's saying a mouthful as big as the jolly green giant's condom size.
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RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
(July 5, 2013 at 6:13 pm)Rahul Wrote:
(July 5, 2013 at 3:57 pm)Chuck Wrote: Did you really imagine scenes analogous to the last two image would not be easy to find in the countries where the first two images were taken?

Huh? North Korea ain't got shit compared to South Korea. It's a nation of starving peasants.

You can compare West and East Germany before the reunification as well.

Communism sucks balls.

The 1st picture is pretty anonymous. It could be anywhere in the agrarian parts of east Or southeast Asia, such as Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, China, even parts of japan. The 2nd picture show Chinese soldiers. The type 95 bullpup assault rifle they are carrying give that away. No other country uses that rifle.

The 3rd picture shows Korean shopping district, probably in south Korea, but could just as well be in Korea town in Los Angeles.

The 4th picture show a bunch of similing people before some signs in Chinese characters. It could be in china, Taiwan, Japan, or even china town somewhere in the US.

If one wishes want to sterotype most people in communist countries as inevitably deprived and miserable, then one needs to explain why the sort of scene depicted in 3rd and 4th picture, presumable being used to represent abundance and happiness, is most certainly easy to find in china. In fact the night life, glitzy shopping, and the overwhelming cacophony of neons in beijing and shanghai is second no nowhere else in the world, not tokyo, not hong kong, not new york, communist party there not withstanding.

Classical communism certainly demonstrated fatal flaws. But the system of rule resulting from that ideology appears to have the capacity to mutate and compensate for its own most dangerous flaws when given the right curcumstances.

The west likes to harp on human rights and real elections. But fundamentally it was the inability of eastern bloc communism to bring about western level of material abundance to its people that doomed it. It seems that having absorbed that lesson, the dominant remaining ruling communist party, that in Beijing, is now doing an very efficient job in providing increased material abundance and avenues of distraction for its people. Communist party can out-capitalist capitalists when it recognizes that such is needed for its own survival.
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