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Egypt - Army seizes power.
#1
Egypt - Army seizes power.
Not sure if this is good news or bad news.
Mubarak style leadership may return and democratic movements will be opressed.
But at least the islamists are away from power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23189180

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVqS817toVU
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#2
RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
Quote:democratic movements will be opressed.

Not the worst thing in a place where "democracy" seems to mean "we can oppress anyone we don't like."

They are not ready. Until they ditch that muslim shit they probably never will be.
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#3
RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
It's brutally simple, what they should do after the "muslim brotherhood" fiasco.
Forbid any religious political party.
Total separation of church and state.... as it was elsewhere... centuries ago... it's the way of the future.
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#4
RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
let's just kill everyone who isn't communist, anyone who is muslim christian or whatever should be killed
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#5
RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
I like pocaracas idea better.
Slave to the Patriarchy no more
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#6
RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
(July 4, 2013 at 2:40 pm)pocaracas Wrote: It's brutally simple, what they should do after the "muslim brotherhood" fiasco.
Forbid any religious political party.
Total separation of church and state.... as it was elsewhere... centuries ago... it's the way of the future.

What is to say the future belongs to enlightenment and progress, and not ignorance and regression?

Separation the church and state begins with high level of liberal arts education amongst the electorate. It is a symptom of a civil and enlightened society. It can not make a society civil and enlightened that otherwise wasn't already so.
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RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
(July 4, 2013 at 6:20 pm)cratehorus Wrote: let's just kill everyone who isn't communist, anyone who is muslim christian or whatever should be killed

Another hilariously idiotic post displaying your false perception of islam as some weirdish anti capitalist liberation theology.
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RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
(July 4, 2013 at 2:24 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Not sure if this is good news or bad news.
Mubarak style leadership may return and democratic movements will be opressed.
But at least the islamists are away from power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23189180

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVqS817toVU


I don't know if it is a good thing or a bad thing either.

1. I suspect if there is really a substantial moderate Islamic fractions that was prepared to accept the compromise required to participate in democracy, such fractions have just become disillusioned about whether any such compromises could ever actually do any good.

2. Egypt's problem is structural. While a bad government can worsen it, it would take a exceptionally good government to genuinely relieve it, I don't believe the army could solve the problem, nor is it likely that the army will relinquish power to someone who could. So whatever government finally results from this coup would, in my opinion, also neither last long nor build any sustainable social stability in Egypt. So what will take its place when it too falls?
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RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
(July 4, 2013 at 7:26 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(July 4, 2013 at 2:40 pm)pocaracas Wrote: It's brutally simple, what they should do after the "muslim brotherhood" fiasco.
Forbid any religious political party.
Total separation of church and state.... as it was elsewhere... centuries ago... it's the way of the future.

What is to say the future belongs to enlightenment and progress, and not ignorance and regression?

Separation the church and state begins with high level of liberal arts education amongst the electorate. It is a symptom of a civil and enlightened society. It can not make a society civil and enlightened that otherwise wasn't already so.

Would you say the U.S.A. was a "civil and enlightened society" in that far off 4th of July?
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#10
RE: Egypt - Army seizes power.
@Chuck

Everytime you post something I learn something.
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