Evidence?

[theVOID]

There maybe lack of evidence to prove christianity
But there is non to prove it wrong

There is also no evidence to disprove unicorns, dragons, reptilian overlords, gnomes, trolls, flying sheep, santa or the FSM...

But wait... here's the clincher!

There is NO evidence at all to suggest that the idea of God is any more credible than any other unproven belief!

[fr0d0]

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I personally have never claimed to know anything about origins or beginnings when it comes to the universe and how it came to be. I am content to state that I do not know how it all began but if I had to weigh the big bang theory with the Creationists theory I would go towards the one which seems most likely. There are many versions of the big bang theory for example yet no one could really state that those theories are absolutely true. Unlike faith which states that Creationism or ID are absolutely true. Not based on facts nor experimentation nor observation it's all based on primitive tales from a fearful and ignorant people and time period in human history. I find that faith and reason are like oil and water they don't generally mix. I think it an insult to call creationism or ID reasonable or logical since its very foundation is based on primitive mythologies.

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That was merely an example CP. My belief hardly ever touches the point either. I'm sure you have a worldview??

Again you attack my belief as if millenia of eeking out the truth is somehow invalid because it doesn't employ scientific verification where that is shown not to apply. In other words your dismissal is baseless as previously pointed out, and that you have not addressed.

[lilphil1989]

fair enough you explain mypost to me in you logical explanation im very open for someone to explain it to me because so far im not finding one

I'm not a geologist by profession.
If you can't explain something, it is not evidence that your chosen deity did it.

Can you prove to me that the "crack" wasn't caused by the hammer of almighty Thor?

[Violet]

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There maybe lack of evidence to prove christianity
But there is non to prove it wrong


and i ask you all
look at the map of earth and look at the water depth
there is a approx. 40,000 mile crack starting from the red sead crossing all the way to the indian ocean it splits in 2. one crack goes to the west directly up the atlantic ocean and heads towards nothern russia. The other goes all the way past australia right up the pacific ocean and ends at san andreas fault U.S.A. This is not a tectonic plate, this is a crack of somekind.
There is reason to believe that this was appart of noah's flood and clearly looks like it parted North and South America from Africa and Europe.

Also on the map check out the gulf of Mexico. It is a tremenous amount of mud underneith the sea plowed down from the great mississipi river.

Now think about this. If the world is millions of years old and mississipi is millions of years olf, wouldn't the gulf of mexico by now be another country.

On various infomation iv seen on the internet apparently there is only 4,500 years worth of mud. This was when Noahs flood happened. No major river doesn't carry mud so how can there only be 4,500 years worth of mud if the world is billions of years old and the mississipi river is millians of years old

check it out guys interesting stuff

check out the huge crack on google earth (change setting to ocean depth) and any ocean depth map on google

you will clearly see it in the middle of the atlantic but remember it starts at the red sea eastern africa

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A 'crack of some kind' = parting of the Red Sea by Mosses? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics Gee, I wonder what that 'crack' through the Red Sea is... It surly can't be a tectonic plate... because I heard it wasn't. Oh wow, it appears that it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_African_Rift how interesting.

I'll let someone else show you the truth about this 'mysterious' mud... Said person might enjoy the exercise

[zoso]

There maybe lack of evidence to prove christianity
But there is non to prove it wrong

There is also no evidence to disprove unicorns, dragons, reptilian overlords, gnomes, trolls, flying sheep, santa or the FSM...

But wait... here's the clincher!

There is NO evidence at all to suggest that the idea of God is any more credible than any other unproven belief!

there is evidence to SUGGEST the word of god is correct
there is also evidence to SUGGEST evolution is correct.
but there is no proof for either. Evidence doesnt prove anything it only suggest.
Proof is when you've seen it with your very eyes.
I could tell you i have children and show you a picture of them. You believe me but it doesnt mean its true. You only hang on faith of the word spoken as you do with evolution and as i do with christianity.

If you prove it yourself its certainly true
If you dont demonstrate it then you hang on faith

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the crack has nothing to do with moses it is a suggestion to explain noahs flood.

please read the post more carefully

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the crack suggests an explanation for noahs flood no the parting of the red sea in moses
the crack goes approx 40,000 miles long why would it need to be for the parting of the red sea

[lilphil1989]

there is evidence to SUGGEST the word of god is correct
there is also evidence to SUGGEST evolution is correct.

Do I dare to ask what this evidence might be?...

You only hang on faith of the word spoken as you do with evolution and as i do with christianity.

How do you know that I believe that the theory of evolution by natural selection is valid?
This is an ATHEIST forum. An atheist is simply one who does not believe in any theistic gods.

[Violet]

Noah's flood is even more laughable ^_^ It didn't seem like a tectonic plate had anything to do with the flood, and the only relevant thing I could think of in the area was the crossing of the Red Sea ^_^ Fine, I will not expect your intelligence to be that of a genius.

There is no evidence to suggest the word of any god is correct. None. There is, on the other hand... a great deal of evidence (to the point that it is fact) that the Christian god does not exist as supposed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution Example of evolution that has been observed. Here is information about what you are talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

How does this crack suggest anything?

[zoso]

there is evidence to SUGGEST the word of god is correct
there is also evidence to SUGGEST evolution is correct.

Do I dare to ask what this evidence might be?...

You only hang on faith of the word spoken as you do with evolution and as i do with christianity.

How do you know that I believe that the theory of evolution by natural selection is valid?
This is an ATHEIST forum. An atheist is simply one who does not believe in any theistic gods.

ok im sorry to assume you believe in evolution thats wrong and i appologise.

would you agree that evolution is a theory and not evidence or proof?

[lilphil1989]

the crack suggests an explanation for noahs flood no the parting of the red sea in moses
the crack goes approx 40,000 miles long why would it need to be for the parting of the red sea

and if you'd bothered to read Saerules' response you'd know that this "crack" is explained quite well by the geophysical theory of plate tectonics

[chatpilot]

Once again fr0d0 your worldview based on faith is itself even more baseless than any scientific theory ever produced by man.