Mary's 10 Year Pregnancy!

[Bad Wolf]

No, it’s supported and well known, 42 authors mention Jesus while only 10 mention Tiberius. That’s over four times as many.

I think he wanted you to provide links, you know evidence and such.

No, I reject the scientific majority opinion (not consensus)

You are lying, to put it plainly. There is no doubt in the scientific community that evolution is the best theory that explains the diversity of life.

Truth reported 24,000 times.

That isn't a rebuttal

Yes we are. I see no reason to take Christian stories about Jesus any more seriously than I take ancient Greek stories about Hercules.

“I see no reason to accept that the Holocaust really happened over the killing of Ewoks in the Return of the Jedi”

Absurdity at its finest.

Not exactly a great comparison seeing as we have evidence that the holocaust happened. 6 million jews don't just disappear into thin air. Also we have evidence that 'The Return of the Jedi' was a fictional movie.

I’ve seen your videos, I know you’re fully aware of the evidence for Jesus; you merely dismiss it upon irrational grounds. I cannot help you there.

I think it would help everyone out here if you explained how he's being irrational. And I didn't think jesus was mentioned anywhere outside the bible, but then again i don't study history much.

There’s no proof that any historical figure existed.

We'll we know that JFK existed, we did see him get shot on TV

You hate Christianity so therefore Jesus never really existed.

If only it were that simple

No blood on these hands old timer.

Look up 'The Crusades' I think thats quite a lot of blood

[Minimalist]

Hey, Waldork you dumb fuck. You do know...or should be told that your xtian thugs burned the libraries of antiquity but, thanks to Origen we do have a small sampling of some of the comments by Greco-Roman writers like Celsus - the work is Contra Celsus - to see what they thought of your early shithead brethren.

Chap. 28

...[Celsus] accuses [Jesus] of having "invented his birth from a virgin," and upbraids Him with being "born in a certain Jewish village, of a poor woman of the country, who gained her subsistence by spinning, and who was turned out of doors by her husband, a carpenter by trade, because she was convicted of adultery; that after being driven away by her husband, and wandering about for a time, she disgracefully gave birth to Jesus, an illegitimate child, who having hired himself out as a servant in Egypt on account of his poverty, and having there acquired some miraculous powers, on which the Egyptians greatly pride themselves, returned to his own country, highly elated on account of them, and by means of these proclaimed himself a God."...

BOOK 3

Chap. 44

After these points Celsus quotes some objections against the doctrine of Jesus, made by a very few individuals who are considered Christians, not of the more intelligent, as he supposes, but of the more ignorant class, and asserts that "the following are the rules laid down by them. Let no one come to us who has been instructed, or who is wise or prudent (for such qualifications are deemed evil by us); but if there be any ignorant, or unintelligent, or uninstructed, or foolish persons, let them come with confidence. By which words, acknowledging that such individuals are worthy of their God, they manifestly show that they desire and are able to gain over only the silly, and the mean, and the stupid, with women and children."...

I must admit...Celsus nailed your sorry ass in Chapter 44.

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Look up 'The Crusades' I think thats quite a lot of blood

He's a protestant fuckwad. You have to go to the witch trials, the 30 years war and the wars of the reformation, etc for their atrocities.

[Simon Moon]

[Beta Ray Bill]

Waldorf, I know of a few historical quotes that can be applied to you quite well:

Seneca the Younger - "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."

Buddha - “We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.”

Socrates - "Ordinary people seem not to realize that those who really apply themselves in the right way to philosophy are directly and of their own accord preparing themselves for dying and death."

I don't know what my destiny is, but I'm not incorrectly applying it to ancient speculations. I am living and will die by my own accord, and not put all my faith in one of a million religions.

[Minimalist]

You can not impress Waldork with facts. He is a flaming asshole who believes in a talking snake and a 6,000 year old universe for fuck's sake.

Just shit on him. It's all he deserves.

[Drich]

Thus requiring the priest to have her checked.

Sounds invasive and slightly pornographic. Are you sure the priest checked her out?

I said "Requiring the Priest to have her checked." It's in the above post you quoted.

I did not say 'requiring the preist to check himself.'

What I said leave room for the priest to have check but also to have someone check and report back to him.

[Rev. Rye]

OK, so, let's review. Mary conceived prior to 4 BC and gave birth after 6 AD.

It's a 10 year pregnancy!

It's a miracle! ...or something.

You know, I recently read a Naruto Fanfic where Sakura gave birth twice after pregnancies that lasted, at most, a single month, and, in both cases, the children were in their teens within, at most, a day after being born. Seriously, a 10-year pregnancy is at least a step up.

[Drich]

Now they go to get married. Where do the have to go to get married? The Temple.

You mentioned earlier the verses 20-25. Verse 24 tells us that Joseph "took Mary home as his wife." Is there anything in the Bible that indicates that couples were to be wed in the temple, or that this custom was followed in Jesus' time?

In Jesus time up untill his death, they were under OT law. which means Joseph and Mary Had to follow OT law at the time they were married. To be Married they had to go before God and make their vows. In order to do this one needed a Rabbi or Priest to sanction said vows.

[Minimalist]

[Tonus]

I guess one of the perks of being a temple priest at the time was that you'd get to finger every virgin bride.