Wonder how they came up with the 3 million figure?
It is odd that so many people left nothing behind to show they were ever there however.
It is odd that so many people left nothing behind to show they were ever there however.
If these resident theists really talk to god..
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Wonder how they came up with the 3 million figure?
It is odd that so many people left nothing behind to show they were ever there however. RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 24, 2013 at 7:56 am
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(September 24, 2013 at 1:59 am)Esquilax Wrote: Besides, atheism is a position of non-belief, not one of denial; we don't believe god exists, and if we had evidence, then we would believe ...I only wish that were universally true, and it probably does not apply to you. Some atheists are simply contrarians and/or angry at their religious upbringing. No evidence would suffice to make them believe anymore than some believers will drop their faith in response to hack objections to become atheists. (September 24, 2013 at 7:56 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I only wish that were universally true, and it probably does not apply to you. Some atheists are simply contrarians and/or angry at their religious upbringing. No evidence would suffice to make them believe anymore than some believers will drop their faith in response to hack objections to become atheists. We can both go around spinning each other's position any way we like, Chad. What matters is whether evidence can actually be presented or not, and I've never seen any that points to a specific god, even if it points to one at all. Now, you can point to me and say that I'm just being contrary, but that's not much of an argument. As I've said in the past, if that was actually true it would be very easy for you guys to utterly remove the credibility of us contrarian atheists by simply continuing to prove your god exists, and yet the atheist community continues to grow. So go ahead. I don't find this reinterpreting of the motives of dissenters to be a terribly convincing argument from either side, though.
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Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (September 24, 2013 at 6:22 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:(September 24, 2013 at 5:06 am)Esquilax Wrote: Drich is more in the market for praying that you get cancer: It would not surprise me - I asked Christians for help ages ago and most turned me away. I have learning Difficulties which means I have problems at times controlling what I say. Of all people in this world you would have thought Christians would have been the most understanding. When in fact they were the worst offenders of all. (September 24, 2013 at 7:04 am)Brakeman Wrote:(September 23, 2013 at 9:27 pm)Drich Wrote: I can't speak for any one else but maybe I don't want to see you in heaven that badly. Cheers Drich about saying God Doesent care for people at least you finally realise that back in Genesis he regreted making us and has probably been looking for a reason to obliterate us time and time again. (September 24, 2013 at 7:13 am)Airyaman Wrote: Well, to be fair Brakeman, god really only showed up for a few handful of people at a time in remote locations even in the bible, so its not like he's into big crowds and getting around.
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(September 23, 2013 at 10:56 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:Drich Wrote:I did. I told you to watch out for the world leader that will intergrate or spear head the intergration the R/C Church and the popes 'new doctrines' with all other forms of luke warm spiritualism/religion. He will form the one world religion spoken of in Revelation.... We'll see what happens one way or another. Some will be ready while others will be left.. It's not my job to decide who's who. I'm here to inform those who want to go to keep an eye out. Me wishing the end will no more influence the end than you trying to wish and explain away my efforts. (September 24, 2013 at 1:59 am)Esquilax Wrote:You called my position really strange - then pretty much agreed with it. Now that's strange! You don't need to make a knee-jerk reaction against everything I say...or maybe you do.(September 23, 2013 at 12:22 pm)John V Wrote: Point is that, either way, you've already answered that question - "not" - despite the amount of evidence. RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 24, 2013 at 8:36 am
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(September 23, 2013 at 11:10 pm)Waratah Wrote:No you haven't the only thing you did was zero on the parts of the passage that says ask, while ignoring everything else. I point this intelectual dishonesty out to you and you promptly ignored it, so I simply ignored you. The conversation ended because you were not willing to acknoweledge what was on page.(September 23, 2013 at 10:42 am)Drich Wrote: Again a youtube trick would be a waist of time for anyone who does not already believe. (September 24, 2013 at 4:56 am)themonkeyman Wrote: Hey,Again signs and wonders are provided to those who First Humble themselves before God. What is with you all that you do not understand this part? My whole ministry hereis based around all of the signs and wonders God has done for me, and inturn will do specifically for you if you first humble yourselves before Him by A/S/King for the gift of the Holy Spirit. (September 24, 2013 at 6:22 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:When the blackness consumes him, he will cry out maybe not to you, but to God. Rest assured every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord.(September 24, 2013 at 5:06 am)Esquilax Wrote: Drich is more in the market for praying that you get cancer: (September 24, 2013 at 8:35 am)John V Wrote: You called my position really strange - then pretty much agreed with it. Now that's strange! You don't need to make a knee-jerk reaction against everything I say...or maybe you do. It's possible that I misread your post. To me it sounded like you were continuing with an "atheists are being disingenuous because they wouldn't worship god even if we proved it," thing, and that's just not true. If that's not what you were saying, could you rephrase? I always leave room for the possibility I could be missing something, after all.
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Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (September 24, 2013 at 8:36 am)Drich Wrote:(September 24, 2013 at 6:22 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Which just goes to show how much of a terrible human being he really is. Well done for proving Fidel's point, but I'm sure he won't thank you for it. Do you really need me to tell you where to stick your preachy ambulance-chasing sermonising - and against the family of another member? Not cool, not in the slightest. I suggest you apologise immediately.
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 24, 2013 at 9:04 am
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(September 24, 2013 at 7:04 am)Brakeman Wrote: So demonstrating the "GLORY" of god that works within you in a fashion that jesus himself stated you could do is something you won't do because you don't love me enough?Nuuuupe. Just because you identify codependency as 'love' does not mean I'm obligated to 'love' you back in the way you demand to be 'loved.' Neither is God. Love/Agape is an absolute standard that does not bend or change to fit the mental disorder you identify as love. To show you 'Agape' as i am required I must simply show you the path/love God offers us. I have many times over this last year. In order for 'Agape' to progress you must be faithful to the Agape given to you in God's name. If you are not, then that is where Agape ends. Quote:So the bible babble about him loving me is bullshit too.If you believe 'Agape/love' to be based in codependancy, then yes God does not 'love' you as you are trying to manipulate this word. God does not 'agape/love' everyone. The bible even says there are those in whom God hates. The doctrine of 'omni-benevolance' is a doctrine of man that actually goes against biblical evidences. Quote:So Not only his respect, love, and forgiveness must be "EARNED", but his evidence for even existing must be earned too?Yes. Forgiveness is very conditional, so is God's love. (John 3:16) Quote:God knows that his stories don't jive and make rational sense, but he won't accept me and give me really good evidence because I haven't EARNED it. Okie Dokie then.. Dick god you have there!They don't jive' simply because you do not hold to all of the doctrinal teachings of God. You have built a picture of God on these 'doctrinal/non-biblical' teachings, and that God does not repersent the God of the bible. If you only looked at what the bible says about God and take that picture the bible creates then everything makes sense. Drich Wrote:So because I live in 2013 and not in 32 AD I am punished as a rational skeptic in that I am not allowed to witness firsthand the evidence of a real god, despite god knowing that the nature of those that live around me is to lie and make up fanciful gods. Again, what a dick god you have..Look in mat 12 where Christ condemns the Pharisees for blaspheme of the Holy Spirit. Look at the blaspheme closly. Did the Pharisees mention the Holy Spirit in any way? No, the saw the miricals of Christ and attributed the Works of the Holy Spirt to the Devil. How could they do this if they saw what Christ did?!?! if everything you claim is correct then they would be obligated to acknoweledge Jesus as God correct? Then why didn't they? Why did they look for anyother explaination other than acknoweledging Christ as God? In short because they did not Humble themselves before God. They stood in thier own pride much like the way you do now. They looked for ways to explain away Christ, because they wanted to live a life without Him. Quote:So the bible babble about him loving me is bullshit too.If you believe 'Agape/love' to be based in codependancy, then yes God does not 'love' you as you are trying to manipulate this word. God does not 'agape/love' everyone. The bible even says there are those in whom God hates. The doctrine of 'omni-benevolance' is a doctrine of man that actually goes against biblical evidences. Quote:So Not only his respect, love, and forgiveness must be "EARNED", but his evidence for even existing must be earned too?Yes. Forgiveness is very conditional, so is God's love. (John 3:16) Quote:God knows that his stories don't jive and make rational sense, but he won't accept me and give me really good evidence because I haven't EARNED it. Okie Dokie then.. Dick god you have there!They don't jive' simply because you hold to all of the doctrinal teachings of God. You have built a picture of God on these 'doctrinal/non-biblical' teachings, and that God does not repersent the God of the bible. If you only looked at what the bible says about God and take that picture the bible creates then everything makes sense. Drich Wrote:So because I live in 2013 and not in 32 AD I am punished as a rational skeptic in that I am not allowed to witness firsthand the evidence of a real god, despite god knowing that the nature of those that live around me is to lie and make up fanciful gods. Again, what a dick god you have..Look in mat 12 where Christ condemns the Pharisees for blaspheme of the Holy Spirit. Look at the blaspheme closly. Did the Pharisees mention the Holy Spirit in any way? No, the saw the miricals of Christ and attributed the Works of the Holy Spirt to the Devil. How could they do this if they saw what Christ did?!?! After if everything you claim is correct then they would be obligated to acknoweledge Jesus as God correct? Then why didn't they? Why did they look for anyother explaination other than acknoweledging Christ as God? In short because they did not Humble themselves before God. They stood in thier own pride much like the way you do now. They looked for ways to explain away Christ, because they wanted to live a life without Him. [/quote] (September 24, 2013 at 7:13 am)Airyaman Wrote: Well, to be fair Brakeman, god really only showed up for a few handful of people at a time in remote locations even in the bible, so its not like he's into big crowds and getting around. So.. Sermon on the mount, the fact that the bible says Jesus was followed by massive groups of people where ever he went, the feeding of the 5000 a couple of different times was what? 'small groups?' |
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