Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 29, 2026, 1:47 pm
Atheist Forums › Community › Religion › Christianity v
How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Thread Modes
How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
John V Offline
Banned
Religious Views: Christian
Posts: 6851
Threads: 76
Joined: October 17, 2012
Reputation: 31
#151
RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 3:57 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 3:51 pm)Faith No More Wrote: But there is no need for compassion if suffering didn't exist.
Yes, someone said that awhile back and I responded to it.
Find
Reply
Faith No More Offline
Better living through chemistry
*****
Religious Views: It's a drug like any other
Posts: 13051
Threads: 66
Joined: February 7, 2011
Reputation: 92
#152
RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 4:07 pm
Well, at least point a link to it, so I can judge for myself.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Find
Reply
John V Offline
Banned
Religious Views: Christian
Posts: 6851
Threads: 76
Joined: October 17, 2012
Reputation: 31
#153
RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 4:19 pm
http://atheistforums.org/thread-21567-po...#pid530016

It was you actually.
Find
Reply
Faith No More Offline
Better living through chemistry
*****
Religious Views: It's a drug like any other
Posts: 13051
Threads: 66
Joined: February 7, 2011
Reputation: 92
#154
RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Thanks. I thought it was me, but I couldn't find it.

John V Wrote:One has suffering, but also has compassion, generosity, self-sacrifice, etc. - qualities which most consider to be good and noble.

The other has no suffering, but neither does it have these good and noble qualities.

It's a matter of opinion as to which one, if either, is better.

If it was as simple as self-sacrifice and generosity existing because they are noble, wouldn't suffering have to exist in heaven for those things to exist, too?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Find
Reply
John V Offline
Banned
Religious Views: Christian
Posts: 6851
Threads: 76
Joined: October 17, 2012
Reputation: 31
#155
RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 4:53 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 4:51 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Thanks. I thought it was me, but I couldn't find it.

John V Wrote:One has suffering, but also has compassion, generosity, self-sacrifice, etc. - qualities which most consider to be good and noble.

The other has no suffering, but neither does it have these good and noble qualities.

It's a matter of opinion as to which one, if either, is better.

If it was as simple as self-sacrifice and generosity existing because they are noble, wouldn't suffering have to exist in heaven for those things to exist, too?
This has also been discussed already, and no, I'm not looking it up for you.
Find
Reply
Nine Offline
Bee-ad
****
Religious Views: Queen Bee
Posts: 4344
Threads: 43
Joined: February 21, 2012
Reputation: 64
#156
RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 4:59 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 4:53 pm)John V Wrote: This has also been discussed already, and no, I'm not looking it up for you.

Yeah FNM! screw you for not knowing every single discussion thats been had here!

-_-
Find
Reply
John V Offline
Banned
Religious Views: Christian
Posts: 6851
Threads: 76
Joined: October 17, 2012
Reputation: 31
#157
RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 6:47 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 4:59 pm)Insanity x Wrote: Yeah FNM! screw you for not knowing every single discussion thats been had here!

-_-
It's been discussed in this very thread, jackass.
Find
Reply
Zen Badger Offline
Life @ the speed of bike
****
Religious Views: I like 3.14159
Posts: 5389
Threads: 52
Joined: January 3, 2010
Reputation: 48
#158
RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 7:15 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 10:10 am)catfish Wrote:
(October 24, 2013 at 4:03 am)Zen Badger Wrote: No, I actually said " there are other gods than yours...ok."

Please don't misquote me in future, it is extremely rude, even for you.

But.... You win, I can't prove your god exists.

I guess we will just both have to be atheists from now on.

Right, you admit that you made that shit up earlier...

OK




Now dumbass, let's talk some more about misquoting, mmm'kay?

You do love being a liar for Jesus don't you shithead.

I made nothing up. I only asked a question.
[Image: mybannerglitter06eee094.gif]
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
Find
Reply
catfish Offline
Banned
Religious Views: Personal and unique
Posts: 2911
Threads: 11
Joined: July 20, 2012
Reputation: 16
#159
RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 11:18 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 7:15 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: You do love being a liar for Jesus don't you shithead.

I made nothing up. I only asked a question.

LOL

You asked a question and made up an answer if "OK" was not a response to my "get to work" comment.

In other words:

You lied???


OK....
Find
Reply
Zen Badger Offline
Life @ the speed of bike
****
Religious Views: I like 3.14159
Posts: 5389
Threads: 52
Joined: January 3, 2010
Reputation: 48
#160
RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 25, 2013 at 2:25 am
(October 24, 2013 at 11:18 pm)catfish Wrote:
(October 24, 2013 at 7:15 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: You do love being a liar for Jesus don't you shithead.

I made nothing up. I only asked a question.

LOL

You asked a question and made up an answer if "OK" was not a response to my "get to work" comment.

In other words:

You lied???


OK....

Fuck off jesus junkie.

I did not not imply that and you fucking know it.

Stop trying to derail the thread with your fucking lies.
[Image: mybannerglitter06eee094.gif]
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
Find
Reply


Atheist Forums › Community › Religion › Christianity v
How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  What is going to happen when Jesus returns? Fake Messiah 21 6523 March 19, 2023 at 12:00 pm
Last Post: Anomalocaris
  Why you can't find God MilesAbbott81 109 29065 September 19, 2022 at 1:41 pm
Last Post: Ranjr
  Can "Jesus is God" be compared to "Ghost in the Shell" anime Woah0 17 4727 August 20, 2022 at 3:45 am
Last Post: zebo-the-fat
  Have you got some kind of Christian backgound? Dundee 25 7571 April 15, 2020 at 9:21 am
Last Post: awty
  Video #2 Why bad things happen to Good people. Drich 13 3987 January 6, 2020 at 11:05 am
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Two audio books for Christians (and, everyone else) Jehanne 3 1294 January 16, 2019 at 12:52 am
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  How can you prove that the gospel of Mark is not the "word of god"? Lincoln05 100 27117 October 16, 2018 at 5:38 pm
Last Post: GrandizerII
  The Kind of Shit Xtian Fucktards Teach Minimalist 12 4940 June 9, 2018 at 3:35 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  So, are the Boils of Egypt still a 'thing' ?? vorlon13 26 9712 May 8, 2018 at 1:29 am
Last Post: Minimalist
  Does everyone else feel dizzy from the lights in Church? Der/die AtheistIn 15 4725 December 11, 2017 at 6:34 pm
Last Post: Minimalist



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)