JFK: The Smoking Gun

[Minimalist]

There does not seem to be anyone hanging on to Kennedy's car as shown in your photo.

[Doubting Thomas]

This is the picture of Hickey holding that rifle. It does not prove the gun discharged but he did have it and Hickey admits to having his hand on the gun
http://www.digitalart.x10host.com/kennedy.jpg
Manowar

Yes, and he's holding it with the barrel pointing upward like he should, not at the back of the president's head.

[Brian37]

*yawn* Another (old) conspiracy theory. Somehow this "accidental shooting" happened in front of hundreds of people but yet it was all covered up.

@Min: Obviously they're hiding the rifles in their suits.

Yes, this shit pisses me off as much as Big Foot, crop circles and claims of "ghosts".

Oswald acted alone, there was no cover up. The only thing you could say about the government at the time is that they were too stupid not to stand up to JFK and say "Are you nuts having an open car?"

[Cinjin]

What kind of Secret Service Agent would keep a loaded high-powered rifle pointed at the Presidents head?? Even momentarily??

Hickey would have to be one of the stupidest people to ever be employed by the US governme..... ** ...oh shit .... maybe Manowar is onto something here.

[Doubting Thomas]

Just think... if Zapruder hadn't been standing in that particular spot that day, JFK conspiracy theorists would have to find something else to do.

Speaking of Zapruder:

[Manowar]

Let me answer a few points. The picture was the car in back of Kennedy's car.(Min, you think i am making up this pic? ) He was holding the gun, (at first you guys said there was no gun, now there is one.) after the second Oswald shot he was standing on the seat and the car brake was applied because of the shots the driver heard, that's when the gun went off according to their story. I am not a conspiracy nut, I thought it was interesting new take on it, even though it came out in 92. Instead of putting the theory down all you had to do is watch, what could it hurt? I can't say if this is true but they answer lots of questions. There are way too much egos here.

manowar

[Captain Colostomy]

It seems far more egotistical to me to insist on furthering a conspiracy than to just say 'bullshit' at its tenuous straw grasping. Theorists are dismissive of facts that don't help their pet project, instead using wild imagination.

[Tiberius]

There does not seem to be anyone hanging on to Kennedy's car as shown in your photo.

As I understand it from other posts, the car with the secret service agent (and supposed accidental assassin) clinging to the side is the one behind Kennedy's in the motorcade, not Kennedy's actual car.

That's what Manowar originally said but I think you misread it (or he phrased it badly, whichever):

The guy in the back seat of the limo behind JFK ( Hickey) had it hidden on the floor as the shots were heard he picked it up and undid the safety, at that point the cars sped up, I guess to avoid more shots Hickey jerked slightly backwards and pulled the trigger.

[Minimalist]

Indeed, Divi Tiberio. I read it as him saying that Hickey was sitting in the back seat of the limo behind JFK which is preposterous. Kennedy was in the back seat. A comma somewhere may have helped but it does not salvage the theory.

If the rifle was on the floor when the first shot rang out the agent would have had to react instantly, pick it up, take the safety off, STAND UP, (otherwise he shoots the windshield out of his own car) and fire the gun in the opposite direction of where he should have been looking.

Sorry. The bullshit is too deep with that one and has been noted, no one saw anything...even the other Secret Service Agents in or on the car. If you fire a rifle that close to someone's ears they will hear it.

[Manowar]

I was an Oswald believer until I saw the show, now I am not so sure. Here is one question I think it would be great to answer "The bullet hole in Kennedy's head, was I believe 6 mm the full metal jacket (oswald's) Could not fit into the hole so how could that be the bullet? Common sense tells me it can't be that full metal jacket caliber it must be another bullet (2 shooters) answer me that and i will shut up.

Min, one quick thing. First I should have used more commas and better wording but I write quickly. Good point about shooting the windshield, but it's a bit too obvious. Hickey was on top of the seat area and his feet were on the seat then he stood up with his on the soft seat, lost his blalance as the car stopped that's why when the gun went off it did not hit the windshield. Maybe the agents covered it up not hearing the shot, I think you can understand that. that's what the show is all about, a coverup.



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