You Can See The Crazyness and Bigotry In This

[Esquilax]

I've brought a couple of people with me here from there, and they've been bann. the most recent 'saved by grace.' Why? Because he would not respect the 'safe place' you all have created, for yourselves. They hide behind a dozen stated rules, and you all hide behind one. 'You shall not preach.' Tell me again who's closed minded, If there are limits on what can and can not be discussed?

So, first of all... you brought that shitheel Grace here? That's... why would you do that to us?

Second of all, Grace was banned for refusing to take part in conversation beyond his multiple troll threads and, ultimately, for threatening us with hell when we disagreed. That's the thing you guys seem to forget when it's convenient to you: preaching, for the purposes of the forums, has nothing to do with just talking about god. It has to do with refusing to engage with us on anything other that a personal preach-train. You'll note the rules have been amended to clarify that point.

Don't spin this into some close-minded persecution, Drich; all it is is a desire to not entertain people committed to being nothing but irritants.

[Drich]

So, first of all... you brought that shitheel Grace here? That's... why would you do that to us?

To kinda prove the point this thread was kinda making, but to him personally. In that what is the point of having all the answers he thought he had if he coul not communicate those answers to those who need it.

Second of all, Grace was banned for refusing to take part in conversation beyond his multiple troll threads and, ultimately, for threatening us with hell when we disagreed.

Which was my point. By having rules like this you can create a safe place by regulating/censoring unpopular speech. Which is no different than what the people at CF have done. The only difference is they have outlined what they censor in great detail, and here one rule is made to fit any number of topics that you all do not want to deal with.

Not that there is anything wrong with that, Just pointing out that there is very little difference in what was/is done about regulating topics, it just the topics themselves that differ.

Don't spin this into some close-minded persecution, Drich; all it is is a desire to not entertain people committed to being nothing but irritants.

I have not spun anything. I have been very clear that both websites do the same thing, just on different subjects.

[freedomfromforum]

Be careful Drich, your epitome is showing.

[Drich]

Be careful Drich, your epitome is showing.

Sorry about that, I'll make an effort to try and stay with in the confines of the Christian sterotypes some of your peers want to hold all of us to.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Self Flagellation?

They did not want me trying to minister to the trolls over there. So I originally went to the .com version of this site, and they welcomed me for a while, then was kicked out for talking about God, in such a way that they could not easily dismiss. So I came here, and thought is was in for more of the same, but the admins here truly welcomed me and I have been here for almost two years.

you were kicked out for being a douche, not because 'we' couldn't handle your stupidity.

*Sigh* Keep on rolling with that persecution complex you delusional twit.

[Drich]

you were kicked out for being a douche, not because 'we' couldn't handle your stupidity.

At least there is a half truth spoken here. I presented the same arguements over there as I do here, and you are right your best could not 'handle' what I had to say therefore I had to go.

[Ryantology]

Be careful Drich, your epitome is showing.

Sorry about that, I'll make an effort to try and stay with in the confines of the Christian sterotypes some of your peers want to hold all of us to.

It can't be much of an effort, because you do conform to stereotype pretty much all the time.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

you were kicked out for being a douche, not because 'we' couldn't handle your stupidity.

At least there is a half truth spoken here. I presented the same arguements over there as I do here, and you are right your best could not 'handle' what I had to say therefore I had to go.

People's patience with your preaching and smugness is/was the only difference. Your behaviour/posts here proves that you have nothing of interest to say.

[Godlesspanther]

As I see it -- fundies are no problem if they are willing to engage in actual discussion. If they are not willing to be anything but a Bible-spouting robot -- forget it.

[Esquilax]

To kinda prove the point this thread was kinda making, but to him personally. In that what is the point of having all the answers he thought he had if he coul not communicate those answers to those who need it.

If he'd been involved in any form of exchange with the members, rather than repeatedly reiterating his point over and over, he could have. In essence, communicating his answers would have been all that was required.

Which was my point. By having rules like this you can create a safe place by regulating/censoring unpopular speech. Which is no different than what the people at CF have done. The only difference is they have outlined what they censor in great detail, and here one rule is made to fit any number of topics that you all do not want to deal with.

Which is just factually incorrect: Grace wasn't banned for content, but for manner. This isn't a matter of unpopular speech, easily evidenced by the fact that guys like you, and GC, and every other christian on this site, can talk about your god as much as you want, just so long as you actually engage with the people around you. That's a far cry from censoring any speech that disagrees with the viewpoint the mods have.

I have not spun anything. I have been very clear that both websites do the same thing, just on different subjects.

Can you provide a single example of someone being banned here, merely for the content of the opinion they expressed, where that content was not an outright threat?