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Atheist/Islamophobic convert to Islam
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 (December 7, 2013 at 12:55 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: ...Yeah, so Islamic scholars translate it, so you are getting different translations. And linguistically, it's so very unlikely that arabic would stay the same since day one. My evidence is the entire field of linguistics, have fun taking that apart. Can you give me an example from Quran for this word differences ? 
There was a link posted in one of these threads discussing the translation of virgins vs raisins in reference to what awaits in paradise. That is an example of a possible translation issue. Since I neither speak arabic nor old arabic, I am not able to show those translations personally. But languages change over time is a fundamental basis of the field of linguistics. And apparently, scholars do debate this stuff as deduced from the virgins vs raisins example, and on top of that you yourself admitted there are differences and islamic scholars translate according to their beliefs but you downplayed all that.
 (December 7, 2013 at 1:12 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: There was a link posted in one of these threads discussing the translation of virgins vs raisins in reference to what awaits in paradise. That is an example of a possible translation issue. Since I neither speak arabic nor old arabic, I am not able to show those translations personally. But languages change over time is a fundamental basis of the field of linguistics. And apparently, scholars do debate this stuff as deduced from the virgins vs raisins example, and on top of that you yourself admitted there are differences and islamic scholars translate according to their beliefs but you downplayed all that. Wouldn't make much sense if it were raisins & you only got around seventy. Virgins will last you forever, even though they won't be virgins anymore. (December 7, 2013 at 1:12 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: There was a link posted in one of these threads discussing the translation of virgins vs raisins in reference to what awaits in paradise. That is an example of a possible translation issue. Since I neither speak arabic nor old arabic, I am not able to show those translations personally. But languages change over time is a fundamental basis of the field of linguistics. And apparently, scholars do debate this stuff as deduced from the virgins vs raisins example, and on top of that you yourself admitted there are differences and islamic scholars translate according to their beliefs but you downplayed all that. Please read again my posts .  Re: Atheist/Islamophobic convert to Islam
December 7, 2013 at 1:20 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2013 at 1:20 pm by NoraBrimstone.)
How can it be 72 Virgins when Islam totally doesn't sexually objectify women at all?
RE: Atheist/Islamophobic convert to Islam
December 7, 2013 at 1:22 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2013 at 1:32 pm by Psykhronic.)
I gave you an example. Raisins vs Virgins. You know very well you never provide any examples or evidence for any of your claims, Nineteen. Don't pull that hypocritical and naive bullshit with me. I do not speak arabic, and I have always used terms such as 'may' to avoid absolute certainty. You simply do not question anything at all except for reality.
And here you said that Islamic scholars translate according to their views - (December 7, 2013 at 12:47 pm)Nineteen Wrote: For example the word which is translated as "head cover" in verse 24:31 actually means "cover" , not "head cover" . Islamic scholars translate it according to their views . (December 7, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: I gave you an example. Raisins vs Virgins. You know very well you never provide any examples or evidence for any of your claims, Nineteen. Don't pull that hypocritical and naive bullshit with me. I do not speak arabic, and I have always used terms such as 'may' to avoid absolute certainty. You simply do not question anything at all except for reality. Nope I'm just smiling to your ignorance. Please read again my posts and try to understand what I said . Your example of raisins and virgins related with my pre posts . Bye ... (December 7, 2013 at 1:38 pm)Nineteen Wrote:(December 7, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: I gave you an example. Raisins vs Virgins. You know very well you never provide any examples or evidence for any of your claims, Nineteen. Don't pull that hypocritical and naive bullshit with me. I do not speak arabic, and I have always used terms such as 'may' to avoid absolute certainty. You simply do not question anything at all except for reality. Listen, bitch. You asked for an example and you got one. Don't play the "I'm too stupid to understand what you said" game because we're fucking sick of it. Why post here at all if you're just going to pretend not to understand when people take time out of their day to respond to you? You pretend to be the dumbest cunt on the planet, but that's obviously an act, because nobody as stupid as you pretend to be could possibly work a computer, phone or tablet. RE: Atheist/Islamophobic convert to Islam
December 7, 2013 at 1:46 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2013 at 1:47 pm by Psykhronic.)
Nine - You apparently do not understand anything I said either. If you don't want to explain anything else, that's fine. The less you talk, the more hope I feel for humanity. I hope that 'bye' means you put me on your ignore list, I've always wanted to be on one of those.
And lawl, Nora, that made me laugh |
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