Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down

[Joods]

You've never seen me cherry pick, I've backed up many verses with other verses to show a truth, just because you want accept them doesn't mean they are wrong, on the contrary it means the truth was revealed and you didn't like it, that's not a very responsible way to have a valid discussion.

GC

So you're really saying this: 

[Godscreated]

You've never seen me cherry pick, I've backed up many verses with other verses to show a truth, just because you want accept them doesn't mean they are wrong, on the contrary it means the truth was revealed and you didn't like it, that's not a very responsible way to have a valid discussion.

GC

lol, "I'm right because I'm right and you're a dumb poopyhead!" is not the most convincing argument I've ever seen mounted.

I said nothing close to that, I said the Bible is right and you seem to reject the truth that comes from it.

GC

[Godscreated]

Here's the thing, I've seen no contradictions in scripture, one has to study the whole of scripture to see it's truth outside of that it's cherry picking.

GC

In plain words, one has to be taught how to twist the words of a perfect, infallable gawd to reconcile the irreconcilable.

 So sad when one can't understand such a simple statement as the one I made above, bold by me.

 GC

[Godscreated]

Here's the thing, I've seen no contradictions in scripture, one has to study the whole of scripture to see it's truth outside of that it's cherry picking.

GC

You also think ad hoc explanations are valid way of resolving apparent contradictions, based on the assumption that there can't possibly be a real contradiction in the Bible.

 Give example please.

GC

[Thumpalumpacus]

lol, "I'm right because I'm right and you're a dumb poopyhead!" is not the most convincing argument I've ever seen mounted.

I said nothing close to that, I said the Bible is right and you seem to reject the truth that comes from it.

GC

Actually, you did say that, albeit in words that seem less childish but are equally idiotic. Of course, I don't expect you will be able to draw the parallel. You're not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

And yes, I reject your Bible and your faith. Any truth which comes from it -- inconsequential as it may be -- is overshadowed by the falseness of its essential premise. Rat poison tastes good to rats ... but I'm not a rat. If you are a rat, great. Shut the fuck up and eat your poison.

[Thumpalumpacus]

In plain words, one has to be taught how to twist the words of a perfect, infallable gawd to reconcile the irreconcilable.

 So sad when one can't understand such a simple statement as the one I made above, bold by me.

 GC

Even sadder when someone misconstrues disagreement with misunderstanding. That's the surest sign of a mind which cannot look past its own horizon.

Which in your case is about fifteen feet away.

[Joods]

I said nothing close to that, I said the Bible is right and you seem to reject the truth that comes from it.

GC

See my picture above.

[Mister Agenda]

You also think ad hoc explanations are valid way of resolving apparent contradictions, based on the assumption that there can't possibly be a real contradiction in the Bible.

 Give example please.

GC

Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
ACTS 9:7 "And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man."
ACTS 22:9 "And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me."

[Godscreated]

 Give example please.

GC

Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
ACTS 9:7 "And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man."
ACTS 22:9 "And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me."

That's not a contradiction of what the scriptures teach, that in no way changes the Bibles meaning, it's late and I'll look closer at the verses when I get a chance.

GC

[dyresand]

Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
ACTS 9:7 "And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man."
ACTS 22:9 "And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me."

That's not a contradiction of what the scriptures teach, that in no way changes the Bibles meaning, it's late and I'll look closer at the verses when I get a chance.

GC

You must be full of yourself the bible is full of contradictions. 

Genesis 1

Genesis 1:11-12 and 1:26-27 Trees came before Adam.
Genesis 2:4-9 Trees came after Adam.
Genesis 1:20-21 and 26-27 Birds were created before Adam.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:19 Birds were created after Adam.
Genesis 1:24-27 Animals were created before Adam.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:19 Animals were created after Adam.
Genesis 1:26-27 Adam and Eve were created at the same time.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:21-22 Adam was created first, woman sometime later.

Genesis 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
Genesis 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation.
Which raises the question, how can an omnipotent, omniscient God create something he’s not pleased with?

Genesis 2:3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
An omnipotent being required…rest?

Genesis 2:16-17 And the Lord God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
God placed temptation in the direct path of his two naïve children and allowed them to be tempted by the serpent (Genesis 3: 1-7), resulting in a single mistake that would contaminate hundreds of billions with a sin nature worthy of eternal torture?
Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, ’You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?"
A talking snake. Enough said.

2. Noahs ark..

Genesis 7:6 Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the earth. And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives entered the ark to escape the waters of the flood.
Eight Bronze-Age humans over 500-years-old built a watercraft the size of a football stadium with only felled trees and pitch?
Genesis6:19 You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you.
Answers In Genesis posits that Noah gathered "kinds" of animals and not all "species," an estimated 16,000 pairs, which raises a few animal-related questions:

• How, exactly, did eight extreme senior citizens load, manage and care for 32,000 animals?
  
  
• What about specialized diets (bamboo for the giant panda, meat for the carnivores, fresh vegetation for the herbivores)?
  
  
• Who cleaned each stall and shoveled the tons of daily excrement through the huge ark’s single window?
  
  
• How did they separate the predator and prey animals? Did the lion lay with the lamb?
  
  
• How do you explain the acquisition and loading of animals not indigenous to the Middle East (many separated by oceans), like the polar bear, the sloth, the crocodile, the fruit bat, the anaconda, etc? And how did the penguins and other cold-climate creatures survive in the blistering desert heat?
  
  
• Wouldn’t freshwater rains from the sky have made the saltwater deadly to ocean marine life? And wouldn’t saltwater have proven equally toxic to all freshwater fish? If water boiled up from beneath the earth’s crust, wouldn’t water temperature changes in the delicate ecosystem have also had a deadly effect?
  
  
• Dinosaurs on the ark. Did they exit the boat and THEN get hit by a comet?
  

Genesis 7:19-20 {the waters} They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet.
This would require steady, planet-wide rainfall at the rate of 6 inches per minute, 360 inches an hour, for 40 days and 40 nights, covering Mount Everest under 22 feet of water. How, exactly, did Noah measure this for the record? Where has all of the water gone since? And why is there no legitimate geological evidence of a global flood?
Genesis 8:8 Then he sent out a dove to see if the water had receded from the surface of the ground.
Why did Noah require a dove to find land (Genesis 8) if he and God were on speaking terms in Genesis 6?
Genesis 8:15-16 Then God said to Noah, "Come out of the ark, you and your wife and your sons and their wives. Bring out every kind of living creature that is with you—the birds, the animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground—so they can multiply on the earth and be fruitful and increase in number on it."
When the ark landed, what did the carnivores eat? All other animal life had been drowned. And vegetation would’ve also been wiped out in the flood, so what did the herbivores eat to survive?
Genesis 9:1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth.
8 people of middle-eastern descent practiced incest to produce over 5,000 of today’s ethnic groups in only a few hundred generations?
Genesis 9:20 Noah, a man of the soil, proceeded to plant a vineyard. When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent.
The only guy worth saving spent his latter days drunk and naked?
NOTE: Much of the biblical flood story was actually plagiarized from "The Epic of Gilgamesh," the mythical Sumerian account of Ut-Napishtim written on stone tablets around 2000 BC. In "The Epic of Gilgamesh, one righteous man was spared from a worldwide flood by building a large boat with a single door and one window. The ark contained a few other human beings plus plant and animal specimens. Rains covered the mountains with water. Birds were sent to find land. The boat landed on a mountain in the middle east. Ut-Napshtim sacrificed an animal as an offering, and the Babylonian gods expressed regret for flooding the earth. Sound familiar?

source http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/b...radictions