Creationist Senators block fossil bill

[Fidel_Castronaut]

She refuses to engage on this, and many topics.

Firstly, I'm a dude

I don't care.

Secondly, there was nothing to engage, Esquilax posted.

I'm sure Esquilax posted some really nice points and raised quite a few issues. You however stil haven't confronted any of the points you so spectacularly missed regarding parody and what atheism actually is (no, not a religion like you keep regurgitating from your favourite apologist website, but rather a lack of belief in a deity or deities).

So, going to humour us pumpkin? Or are you going to take us on a non-stop tour of 'make a point, Dodge all replies, and then trollolololol'?

You also didn't answer whether English was your first language. I'm going to assume it isn't as you said you understood what a fallacy of composition was and then proceeded to post another fallacy of composition in support of your erroneous 'argument' (if one could call it that).

[Huggy Bear]

[Mister Agenda]

Huggy, atheists CAN be religious. Many Unitarians are atheists, for instance. However, I didn't see anyone claiming that atheist's CAN'T be religious, so I'm not sure what you're trying to refute. In any case, you'd have to establish that atheist 'megachurches' (which are niether 'mega' or 'churches') are religions if you want to use those particular examples. There are certainly definitions for 'religion' that Sunday Assemblies don't match.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

As MA says above, cite where anyone is saying that atheists can't be religious?

I thought you made the claim that atheism is a 'religion'.

I know that reading back through your own posts must be a pain but do try to keep up with what you're claiming, it helps to expedite the debate (though I wouldn't call this a debate).

I fully expect a retort of "LULz! How can an atheist be religious and atheism not be a religion".

I hope i am surprised.

[Huggy Bear]

As MA says above, cite where anyone is saying that atheists can't be religious?

I thought you made the claim that atheism is a 'religion'.

I know that reading back through your own posts must be a pain but do try to keep up with what you're claiming, it helps to expedite the debate (though I wouldn't call this a debate).

I fully expect a retort of "LULz! How can an atheist be religious and atheism not be a religion".

I hope i am surprised.

This is what I said.....

I'm not talking about atheism in general, I'm referring to the activists. For instance, saying you believe in God doesn't make you religious, your actions show whether you are or not.

Atheism is not a religion in and of itself, but atheist activists forming an organization to push their agenda can be debated to be.

So there is no "fallacy of composition"

You can be a religious athiest

[Rampant.A.I.]

Buddhism is an atheistic religion. This whole effort to redefine all atheism as a religion is ridiculous, and pointless.

Christians seem to:

Not think it's possible for anyone to hold no religious beliefs

Think that defining atheism as a religion will make it easier to dismiss

[Kitan Etos]

Buddhism is an atheistic religion.

Technically, Buddhism is defined as a philosophy.

[Esquilax]

The problem with what you quoted yourself as saying, Huggy, is fairly well represented in the existence of the Clergy Project, designed to support atheists in the clergy, some of whom are closeted.

Yes, that's right: pastors who are atheists. So it's evidence, just from that one example, though I can give more, that you can't recognize someone's religious affiliations by their actions, you have to go by their beliefs.

But then, you did use a No True Scotsman fallacy earlier, so... I don't even know what you're going to say next.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Buddhism is an atheistic religion.

Technically, Buddhism is defined as a philosophy.

Folk Buddhism has many religious characteristics, including dogmas, divinity, offerings and idol worship.

Theravada is the close to a philosophy in the same way Taoism is: it can be practiced as a lifestyle without religious elements, but for many Buddhists it is indeed their religion.

[ThomM]