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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 6:37 am
Sorry pocararcas, but I've been arguing with theses idiots a long time before I came to this forum.
One cretinist I dealt with believed wholeheartedly in the inerrancy of the KJV, ancient aliens and ancient super civilizations simultaneously.
It is impossible to reason with stupidity such as this.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 6:49 am
(April 29, 2014 at 6:37 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Sorry pocararcas, but I've been arguing with theses idiots a long time before I came to this forum.
One cretinist I dealt with believed wholeheartedly in the inerrancy of the KJV, ancient aliens and ancient super civilizations simultaneously.
It is impossible to reason with stupidity such as this.
Can we try to understand where it comes from, what makes it stick in that mind and, perhaps.... find a way to spawn some form of reason in there?
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 6:56 am
You could, if pride had nothing to do with it
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 8:38 am
(April 29, 2014 at 6:56 am)LastPoet Wrote: You could, if pride had nothing to do with it
Of course, the spawn would not become apparent to us.
It would have to grow for quite a while...
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 8:44 am
(April 29, 2014 at 5:52 am)Tonus Wrote: And it's pretty clear he's not an original thinker
That's putting it mildly.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 9:58 am
(April 29, 2014 at 5:52 am)Tonus Wrote: (April 29, 2014 at 5:19 am)pocaracas Wrote: I like to think he's taking my advice and actually researching the details of what he wants to present, before he comes through with the same old, long debunked, creationist apologetics. The best you can hope is that he comes up with something original, but that's pretty tough to do anymore. And it's pretty clear he's not an original thinker; he copy/pastes a lot of stuff and offers little additional input of his own.
None of this posts so far suggests he has anything remotely like mental agility or a real sense of curiosity. He is unlikely to come up with anything original even if no one has ever written anything on apologetics at all before.
For him, believing in god makes him feel included and looked after, therefore god is true and all to the contrary a insidious plot to deprive him of his security blanket. That's all there is too it.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 2:42 pm
(April 29, 2014 at 6:49 am)pocaracas Wrote: Can we try to understand where it comes from, what makes it stick in that mind and, perhaps.... find a way to spawn some form of reason in there?
I really think it could happen, but it would require a one on one setting. He is too easily able to dodge the tough questions and choose to answer the quips and prods rather than consider anything in depth.
I would really like to see him and Esquilax locked in a debate forum. I'm up for it, too---but I'd like to see Esquilax force him to engage.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 2:53 pm
(April 29, 2014 at 9:58 am)Chuck Wrote: (April 29, 2014 at 5:52 am)Tonus Wrote: The best you can hope is that he comes up with something original, but that's pretty tough to do anymore. And it's pretty clear he's not an original thinker; he copy/pastes a lot of stuff and offers little additional input of his own.
None of this posts so far suggests he has anything remotely like mental agility or a real sense of curiosity. He is unlikely to come up with anything original even if no one has ever written anything on apologetics at all before.
For him, believing in god makes him feel included and looked after, therefore god is true and all to the contrary a insidious plot to deprive him of his security blanket. That's all there is too it.
And yet in his mind he will have won.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 3:12 pm
(April 29, 2014 at 2:53 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (April 29, 2014 at 9:58 am)Chuck Wrote: None of this posts so far suggests he has anything remotely like mental agility or a real sense of curiosity. He is unlikely to come up with anything original even if no one has ever written anything on apologetics at all before.
For him, believing in god makes him feel included and looked after, therefore god is true and all to the contrary a insidious plot to deprive him of his security blanket. That's all there is too it.
And yet in his mind he will have won. Tis the way of the chess playing pigeon.
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RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 29, 2014 at 3:17 pm
(April 29, 2014 at 2:42 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: (April 29, 2014 at 6:49 am)pocaracas Wrote: Can we try to understand where it comes from, what makes it stick in that mind and, perhaps.... find a way to spawn some form of reason in there?
I really think it could happen, but it would require a one on one setting. He is too easily able to dodge the tough questions and choose to answer the quips and prods rather than consider anything in depth.
I would really like to see him and Esquilax locked in a debate forum. I'm up for it, too---but I'd like to see Esquilax force him to engage.
You can't force anyone to engage, around here...
You can just force them to stay away.... actually, it's not you... but Esq can.
Anyway, we just keep pounding him in a way that he reads and pays a minimum of attention.
Keep the profanities to a low, because we know these people will shut down at the sight of them and talk politely.
That's my strategy, at least... In a few years, we'll see if it works...
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