If you are religious, where do u believe heaven "is?"

[Duke Guilmon]

Me as penguin: Oh ya!

Internet police: NO GTFO YOU ARE TO YOUNG FOR THIS,TURN NOW OR DIE!!!!!!!!

Sheild your eyes little one. Really TPFT it's just a booty. Not that big of a deal. You see them at the beach all the time.


Ps. Sorry Deidre. I will stop derailing your thread now

I know but 'merica told me that jesus cries when I see booty. And my dad told me white booty always weakens black men. LOL JK. And you mean school.

[*Deidre*]

Me as penguin: Oh ya!

Internet police: NO GTFO YOU ARE TO YOUNG FOR THIS,TURN NOW OR DIE!!!!!!!!

Sheild your eyes little one. Really TPFT it's just a booty. Not that big of a deal. You see them at the beach all the time.


Ps. Sorry Deidre. I will stop derailing your thread now

Not derailing it...this is apparently your idea of heaven.

It's everyone's thread!

[Godlesspanther]

To me, "heaven" is not a far away place that is "up there" somewhere. The Kingdom of Heaven or Kingdom of God is very real. It is more real than my entire existence in this place, and I have only been there brief moments in my sleep. You see, Jesus told us where to look, (within) but nobody wants that answer; its too vague, too much work. we are creatures who need instant gratification. seeing is believing right? nothing less will do? that is why we look up at the sky, hoping something will happen. It never does. and then we are disappointed, as though it is His fault. sigh. I did that for many years. And then something broke within me. I turned my mind inward, and began to question everything. Then one day, strange and wonderful things began to happen... frightening things.
I found this heaven. it is not a castle in the sky. you see, there is a place between the sleeping world and the waking. some dream, some do more than dream when that door has been opened. few have found it, and it is only by my stubborn and sheer determination, that I did. I have had dreams, and I have been to places no imagination could ever create. I "know" things that comes from a whole other kind of knowledge, not learned here. I have been taken to heavens gate, the door to paradise and I've seen through it. it is a mandorla. call me crazy because I know how this sounds. but I am very much sane and sober. I have heard Jesus voice, and it is a sound I have never heard before in this world. I can't explain it. and it is so wonderful. It is just more REAL than this existence.
I can't "prove" this heaven I have seen and experienced, but I can show you how to get there.
Find Gnosis.

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html

Wow man, you just ate the most acid I ever seen anybody eat in my life.

[Faith No More]

Isn't asking where heaven is a bit like asking where the universe is?

To me, it seems like a nonsensical question.

[*Deidre*]

Even if a particular planet is billions of light years away from earth, it can still be described in some certain terms. But heaven doesn't exist, in my estimation so the question is to theists. Where do they believe heaven is? Since they believe it exists, they must have a rough idea.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Even if a particular planet is billions of light years away from earth, it can still be described in some certain terms. But heaven doesn't exist, in my estimation so the question is to theists. Where do they believe heaven is? Since they believe it exists, they must have a rough idea.

They used to believe it was a physical place above the earth. Literally.

Now it's a non physical spiritual place, just like God, that no one can find because it's "in the spiritual realm."

If Christians are going to get upset every time they're told their beliefs are imaginary, maybe they should define them in ways that are indistinguishable from imaginary things.

[Vicki Q]

They used to believe it was a physical place above the earth. Literally.

Now it's a non physical spiritual place, just like God, that no one can find because it's "in the spiritual realm."

If Christians are going to get upset every time they're told their beliefs are imaginary, maybe they should define them in ways that are indistinguishable from imaginary things.

There's truth in this, so let me attempt a closer definition of 'heaven', so I don't get upset.

C1 Judaism had a very varied range of ideas on post-mortem existence, with everything and nothing being in the mix. There was one strong strand that said that when the Kingdom of God arrived on earth, the righteous dead, who had been held with God, would be physically resurrected to a new life on earth.

The Early Xians claimed that, based on their experiences, this strand was broadly correct, with one very strange twist- in one case (Jesus), the resurrection had happened early. Therefore 'heaven' in one sense is a sort of holding room before the resurrection. Little detail is offered in the NT about it, so I would guess it's a decent place, with tea facilities, satellite TV and wifi. However it's not the main event, which is the resurrected life on earth.

I suppose it might be vaguely controversial (blame Cameron) to opine that the best explanation for the very strange twist, followed by the sudden rigidity on resurrection belief, would be that the thing actually happened.

Also, heaven is the 'location' of God, who is transcendent, so 'location' may not be an adequate term here. It's important to understand that within C1 Judaism/Xianity, heaven and earth interlock and overlap in many places and ways. The Temple, in particular, was once the place and the means par excellence for this to occur.

[Bronwynn]

To me, "heaven" is not a far away place that is "up there" somewhere. The Kingdom of Heaven or Kingdom of God is very real. It is more real than my entire existence in this place, and I have only been there brief moments in my sleep. You see, Jesus told us where to look, (within) but nobody wants that answer; its too vague, too much work. we are creatures who need instant gratification. seeing is believing right? nothing less will do? that is why we look up at the sky, hoping something will happen. It never does. and then we are disappointed, as though it is His fault. sigh. I did that for many years. And then something broke within me. I turned my mind inward, and began to question everything. Then one day, strange and wonderful things began to happen... frightening things.
I found this heaven. it is not a castle in the sky. you see, there is a place between the sleeping world and the waking. some dream, some do more than dream when that door has been opened. few have found it, and it is only by my stubborn and sheer determination, that I did. I have had dreams, and I have been to places no imagination could ever create. I "know" things that comes from a whole other kind of knowledge, not learned here. I have been taken to heavens gate, the door to paradise and I've seen through it. it is a mandorla. call me crazy because I know how this sounds. but I am very much sane and sober. I have heard Jesus voice, and it is a sound I have never heard before in this world. I can't explain it. and it is so wonderful. It is just more REAL than this existence.
I can't "prove" this heaven I have seen and experienced, but I can show you how to get there.
Find Gnosis.

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html

Wow man, you just ate the most acid I ever seen anybody eat in my life.

No drugs.
The door is there if you look for it. Do you know what a mandorla is? when two circles cross, a mandorla is formed in the center. That is where the Kingdom of Heaven is.
The gospel of Thomas speaks of this;

Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, "These nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) kingdom."

They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) kingdom as babies?"

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

[Marsellus Wallace]

If i'm god I would make it a place where you could have the best drinks and meals ever and you get the best sex ever with the ability of having multiple orgasms at the same time.

[Lek]

If i'm god I would make it a place where you could have the best drinks and meals ever and you get the best sex ever with the ability of having multiple orgasms at the same time.

Heaven is even better than that. Look at what you're going to miss.