A thought never had

[KUSA]

If Adam and Eve hadn't listened to Satan, all those terrible things you mentioned wouldn't have happened.

I personally don't think that I should be held accountable for something that happened 6 thousand years ago. God is stupid.

[The Valkyrie]

If Adam and Eve hadn't listened to Satan, all those terrible things you mentioned wouldn't have happened.

I personally don't think that I should be held accountable for something that happened 6 thousand years ago. God is stupid.

But punishment for non crimes or ancestral guilt is such a strong theme in Christianity.

[Chad32]

But how will you learn your lesson if he doesn't threaten your descendants on top of yourself. I can't imagine a judge being in office for long, putting peoeple in jail for stuff their grandparents did.

[Cato]

If Adam and Eve hadn't listened to Satan, all those terrible things you mentioned wouldn't have happened. He wanted them to happen. (I know. We and the devil are all real wonderful and nice and wouldn't hurt a flea. It's all God's fault. Blah, blah, blah.......).

Jesus fuck! Do you understand what you're saying? Grow up already.

[Doggey75]

[Fidel_Castronaut]

If Adam and Eve hadn't listened to Satan, all those terrible things you mentioned wouldn't have happened. He wanted them to happen. (I know. We and the devil are all real wonderful and nice and wouldn't hurt a flea. It's all God's fault. Blah, blah, blah.......).

Oh you mean satan who the bible god created with the presumed full knowledge that he would 'tempt' eve to use her full faculties?

I mean shit Lek, in all honesty, how do you believe in this stuff and accept it with a straight face?

And regardless, I presume in your mind then that a guy tempting a chick to eat an apple just so she could become aware that she could think for herself was justification then for murdering the entire world?

It's not gods fault as there's no evidence you version of god exists. But it's just funny the cognitive dissonance you employ. Fascinating, actually. Such a vivid imagination.

[MJ the Skeptical]

So I never thought about it much, growing up in a christian home, never saw it, never noticed it. Guess I should'a been looking harder.

Remember the story of Lucifer, perhaps we got it wrong. Perhaps he wasn't evil. Perhaps he'd simply had enough of god being a bully, a jerk, an murder. Perhaps since before he became 'satan' there was no hell.

Maybe we got it wrong, maybe after Lucifer saw the mind games god was playing with adam (maybe Lucifer knew gods plan, perhaps god bragged about what was to happen)

Perhaps the story was changed to make him appear to be the bad guy (wouldn't be the first time someone spun an innocent person out to be evil)

Perhaps when he stood up to god, god being a bullying jerk fucked over Lucifer. Perhaps Lucifer was the good guy this entire time, and was punished for standing up . . .

After all god has been the one doing all the killing, satan is gods scapegoat, his fall man.


Thoughts?

If I read the Bible objectively I have to deduce that Lucifer was just behaving as he was made. In the story, God was the one who created evil, God created Lucifer to rebel against him, God created hell knowing people would fuck-up. Also if you look at deaths in the bible, it's 2,000,000 (God) to 10 (Lucifer it's hard to call Satan the bad one. I've often posed the question to theist...How do you tell who's the good one? If Lucifer is just doing as he was planned to do, is he really bad? To your point about Lucifer just rebelling against an evil god, that's actually one of the first things I thought us when I heard the Lucifer story.

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If Adam and Eve hadn't listened to Satan, all those terrible things you mentioned wouldn't have happened. He wanted them to happen. (I know. We and the devil are all real wonderful and nice and wouldn't hurt a flea. It's all God's fault. Blah, blah, blah.......).

If Gawd didn't make Satan specifically to fuck with his supposedly beloved creations, is that not a better parenting standard? To not fuck with your kids who don't even have knowledge of good and evil which is inside the fruit. It's really quite asinine.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

When reading the biblical stories it always struck me that the Devil was more likely the real good guy of the story than God.

Very little of the Christian story actually held up to scrutiny and there is serious confusion about the whole hell issue. It appears that most Christians are not aware that Satan doesn't run hell - he is a captive there so the only one left that could actually have made it, and currently running it, is God.

That is seriously weird.

I've heard people describe the biblical God as a benign dictator. I see nothing benign.

The Bible writers took their stuff from all of the other religions and blended it together into a new fairy tale. The Greeks had a version of hell in their myths. The Egyptians had a version of resurrection in their myths. And they got baptism from India. Angels came from Persia.

[Lemonvariable72]

So I never thought about it much, growing up in a christian home, never saw it, never noticed it. Guess I should'a been looking harder.

Remember the story of Lucifer, perhaps we got it wrong. Perhaps he wasn't evil. Perhaps he'd simply had enough of god being a bully, a jerk, an murder. Perhaps since before he became 'satan' there was no hell.

Maybe we got it wrong, maybe after Lucifer saw the mind games god was playing with adam (maybe Lucifer knew gods plan, perhaps god bragged about what was to happen)

Perhaps the story was changed to make him appear to be the bad guy (wouldn't be the first time someone spun an innocent person out to be evil)

Perhaps when he stood up to god, god being a bullying jerk fucked over Lucifer. Perhaps Lucifer was the good guy this entire time, and was punished for standing up . . .

After all god has been the one doing all the killing, satan is gods scapegoat, his fall man.


Thoughts?

I actually wrote a story on that and posted it on here on halloween