Malaysian airlines plane shot down over Ukraine

[Anomalocaris]

They're trying to do as much as possible to hide the evidence:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ju...ss-ukraine

There probably aren't much evidence in the wreck that could change our understanding of the main events.

It seems more likely the insurgents are removing the bodies in a show for the locals that they are the civil administration in charge, and also in a somewhat amateurish attempt to control media coverage, prevent grisly images of shrapnel wounds on the bodies from being used against them for publicity purposes in the west, and also possibly a cynical attempt to hold the bodies hostage so the Dutch would put pressure on the rest of the west to not be too strident in condemning Russia or the separatists, in order that the family would get the bodies back.

The news report stating the wreckage were spread over 15 square kilometers, and most of the bodies were intact. This suggests to me the plane broke apart at high altitude and many bodies were ejected and free fell to the ground. If the plane come down more or less in one piece, the wreckage would be concentrated and bodies enclosed within would be shattered by the violence of the aircraft's collision with the ground, and burned in the fire as the entire aircraft's fuel load catches fire.

[Minimalist]

Wow. Talk about fucked up.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/19/uk...ad-bodies/

A pro-Russian rebel separatist in Ukraine claimed Saturday that most of the passengers on Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 were dead before the plane was shot down.

According to the Associated Press, rebel commander Igor Girkin said on the Russkaya Vesna website that witnesses to the crash have informed him that “a significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh” when they fell from the sky. He also claimed that many of them had been drained of blood and stank of decomposition because they had been dead for days.

Many Putin allies — including news network Russia Today — have tried to offset the blame for the deaths of all 298 passengers and crew by blaming Ukraine, but Girkin’s assertion is the first to suggest that no one was actually killed in the incident.

[Anomalocaris]

Wow. Talk about fucked up.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/19/uk...ad-bodies/

A pro-Russian rebel separatist in Ukraine claimed Saturday that most of the passengers on Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 were dead before the plane was shot down.

According to the Associated Press, rebel commander Igor Girkin said on the Russkaya Vesna website that witnesses to the crash have informed him that “a significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh” when they fell from the sky. He also claimed that many of them had been drained of blood and stank of decomposition because they had been dead for days.

Many Putin allies — including news network Russia Today — have tried to offset the blame for the deaths of all 298 passengers and crew by blaming Ukraine, but Girkin’s assertion is the first to suggest that no one was actually killed in the incident.

The way low IQ thugs normally argue when they can't beat up their accuser.

Oh, this is summer in Ukraine. The temperature in donesk yesterday was 87 degrees. I wouldn't doubt fresh dead bodies out in the open under the sun would stink within 24 hours.

[The Grand Nudger]

I'm sorry, is he suggesting that the plane had an inflight kosher butcher's shop - or that there was a fucking vampire in coach?

[Anomalocaris]

I'm sorry, is he suggesting that the plane had an inflight kosher butcher's shop - or that there was a fucking vampire in coach?

He is learning from 9-11 conspiracy theorists. He is undoubtedly insinuating the west loaded up a plane with dead bodies and blew it up over separatist controlled parts of Ukraine to implicate good honest russophilic people of the breakaway republic of Donesk.