(September 17, 2014 at 2:18 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:I don't really see a disconnection, I deserve to suffer in Hell for my sins but because we are valued we are offered forgiveness(September 16, 2014 at 3:28 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: My religion does not teach that I am useless, it actually teaches that I am valued that is why God offers everyone salvation. What it actually teaches is that without God i 'm going to suffer in Hell.
There seems to be a disconnect between 'I am valued' and 'I deserve to suffer in hell if I don't worship God'. I worshiping God the only value you have, and without it you're not only worthless, but deserve eternal torture?
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Christians. Could you be wrong?
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  (September 17, 2014 at 3:50 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I deserve to suffer in Hell for my sins What a disgusting sentiment.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 3:52 pm
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You've done something that warrants hell? Care to share (assuming that the statute of limitations has run out, obviously...don't want you incriminating yourself)? What -could- that possibly be.......
Do you deserve to pay a ticket for whatever it is? Do you deserve a sentence of hard labor on your state highway for whatever it is? Do you deserve a night in county jail for whatever it is? Do you deserve a 10 year stretch in a minimum security prison for whatever it is? Do you deserve life in a federal penitentiary for whatever it is? Do you deserve to be tortured for whatever it is? Do you deserve to be executed for whatever it is?
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 3:55 pm
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(September 17, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You've done something that warrants hell? Care to share (assuming that the statute of limitations has run out, obviously...don't want you incriminating yourself)? What -could- that possibly be....... It is everything that I have done that is wrong according to the Bible. We all deserve Hell for things we have done in are lifes. RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 3:56 pm
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Uh huh, so, do you think that all of that (whatever that nebulous "all" may be) warrants, say, 5 years -possibility of parole in 3 down at the local klink? Gotta tell you buddy, I've never done anything that deserves more than a couple nights in the county tank.......so if you would, please limit these claims to yourself.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(September 17, 2014 at 3:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:(September 17, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You've done something that warrants hell? Care to share (assuming that the statute of limitations has run out, obviously...don't want you incriminating yourself)? What -could- that possibly be....... So the only reason it's wrong is because the Bible says it's wrong, and it just so happens that God is one that controls the punishment, but you can conveniently avoid it by paying him in worship and praise. Do you know absolutely fucking absurd that is?
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 3:58 pm
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(September 17, 2014 at 3:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:(September 17, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You've done something that warrants hell? Care to share (assuming that the statute of limitations has run out, obviously...don't want you incriminating yourself)? What -could- that possibly be....... I haven't done something wrong according to the justice system. I have commited sins though like gossiping , hate, lying. All are mentioned as being wrong, commiting these deserves Hell. (September 17, 2014 at 3:56 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Uh huh, so, do you think that all of that (whatever that nebulous "all" may be) warrants, say, 5 years -possibility of parole in 3 down at the local klink? Gotta tell you buddy, I've never done anything that deserves more than a couple nights in the county tank.......so if you would, please limit these claims to yourself. No I don't think it would add up to that as sins punishable in the Bible are not illegal in modern day justice systems. RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:00 pm
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So, nothing you've done, in your estimation, should land you in a county jail for a few years.......but...simultaneously, everything you've done -should- land you in hell for eternity (which, I've heard..is a bit rougher than county jail)?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 17, 2014 at 4:01 pm
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(September 17, 2014 at 4:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So, nothing you've done, in your estimation, should land you in a county jail for a few years.......but...simultaneously, everything you've done -should- land you in hell for eternity (which, I've heard..is a bit rougher than county jail)? Now you are understanding me. |
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