what is our stance on global warming?

[Ravenshire]

[Mystic]

Global warming is real and there is little that can be done about it. If there was a lot that can be done about it and an easy solution to it, almost everyone would accept the problem and the solution. The problem is there is no easy solution so people go in denial mode.

As for suicide and all, my advice is hang in there and try to make the best of what you got.

[professor]

Yeah, global warming is so real we had the coldest, nastiest winter here in western NY than we have had in a long time and the prediction is for another similar one dead ahead.
Oh, I forgot, they changed it to "Climate Change" to cover over the obvious lie.

If you see a sale on tin foil- send me a PM. I'm clearly running low.

[Tobie]

Yeah, global warming is so real we had the coldest, nastiest winter here in western NY than we have had in a long time and the prediction is for another similar one dead ahead.
Oh, I forgot, they changed it to "Climate Change" to cover over the obvious lie.

If you see a sale on tin foil- send me a PM. I'm clearly running low.

What possible reason would the scientific community have for making up climate change?

[Zack]

I've found the front leaning rest position to be an effective but tiresome stance.

[professor]

Here is the reason for the scientific community being involved with Climate change-

Government money flows to the education system to science people in the form of grants for specific studies.
When government has an agenda on environment (for example) in this case, the people behind the government desire the US to blend into a more controllable entity and have been looking for entry points.

The environment is the perfect vehicle - witness the EPA and various letter agencies having ultimate say on industry for years here.

Example: govt. agent canvasses colleges seeking a connection between air quality and industry, agent working with the school explains the goal of the study, study begins. If the input from the study meets the goals of the agency- the study continues- money keeps coming in.
Professors really like money just like everyone else.
If the study lacks what the agency is looking for- money stops.

It is ALWAYS about the money.
If one thinks scientific guys are above taking bucks for leaning their charts over the right way- you are living in la la land.

The company I work for has students at a local college on a bearing project, it's good for them and good for us.
I have a buddy in another company doing the same with 5 different projects.
The difference is little or no money is involved.
UNLIKE govt backed studies.
If you follow the money-crumb trail, rather than the propaganda trail, reality is quite different.

I am reminded of what a president of the US said decades ago.
It went something like this: "The country is run by very different personages than what the public believes". The guy was being honest.
Remarkable event.

I am also reminded about all the shrill propaganda 40 or so years ago of the imminent ice age that would doom us. I was there. I remember.
This is just another scam like that one.

[Tobie]

The whole point of peer-review is that you can't just make up figures to fit your theories - your findings have to be repeatable to be taken seriously. If you want to prove your theory (which involves every climatologist being in on some massive conspiracy) you have to go and repeat several times the experiments that have been done to show climate change is happening and show why they don't show climate change if you do find something different.

You claim that scientists are fabricating data to support their claims, but you have none to support yours, yet you think we should take you seriously?

[Aractus]

[downbeatplumb]

I agree we are doing some harm, but we still have to except what climate we are given get from the earth, if we weren't here, I still believe that the climate will still change

This is true to a very small extent. We are busily poring vast amounts of CO2 from every past epoch into the atmosphere as well as growing farting animals while simultaneously retarding the planets natural cooling mechanisms by destroying forests and blocking off rivers screwing with the long term carbon cycle. The earth is warming now at a pace not seen since the deacon traps erupted and that is a possible cause of the Permian extinction.

In short we humans are doing everything we can as fast as we can to warm the planet to untenable levels.

The climate would change without us, but slower and in a less damaging way.

That it would change anyway is not a reason to not do anything.

[paulpablo]

I think world wide people should kill all domestic dogs, cease production of beef, kill the cows. Use the land what was used for cows to plant trees, and find alternative fuel for vehicles and to produce electricity . That's if people are really worried about global warming. It probably won't effect me in my lifetime and no one else seems to care.
I'm pissed off that I found out that for some reason climate change means britain will get even colder, even as we're being flooded by global warming, I thought I'd at least be able to get a good tan while I'm dying but apparently not.