Questions About the Rapture

[FreeTony]

In the U.S. christianity is not tied to any one prophet/pope/doctrine. Which means we are free to go where ever the bible leads.

Which is why, given the the bible is so clear, all US Christians end up with the exact same beliefs. Oh wait....

[Huggy Bear]

You Huggs, trying to get a gauge on whether or not your heritage places you as a first wave rapturer, or a recent adoptee.

I don't believe it's about heritage, that's why organized churches are so corrupted, they teach their traditions instead of what that Bible says, the Bible clearly states that people will be "caught up" to meet the lord in the air, but it never uses the word "rapture", it's just used as a matter of convenience.

1 Thessalonians 4
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

[The Grand Nudger]

A simple "I prefer not to answer" would probably have been a response to my question, but thank you for elaboration upon other things.

No, it's not a matter of convenience. The doctrine has a definite place in history, even a known inventor. 1830, John Darby. I grow tired of educating the faithful regarding their own faith. But yes, churches are corrupt - probably not for the reason you mentioned, but that's okay...as long as we're on the same page - roughly.

[Huggy Bear]

A simple "I prefer not to answer" would probably have been a response to my question, but thank you for elaboration upon other things.

No, it's not a matter of convenience. The doctrine has a definite place in history, even a known inventor. 1830, John Darby. I grow tired of educating the faithful regarding their own faith. But yes, churches are corrupt - probably not for the reason you mentioned, but that's okay...as long as we're on the same page - roughly.

I did answer, I believe exactly what the Bible says, that people will be "caught up to meet the lord in the air", and when I use the terminology "rapture" that is what I'm referring to, nothing more.

Someone else's interpretation doesn't reflect on what I believe.

[The Grand Nudger]

-and good luck with that, sir...lol. You don't believe in the rapture doctrine...so next time someone asks, you can say no. No need to thank me for the clarification, it's just a service that I provide

[FatAndFaithless]

Isn't Jesus supposed to have returned "soon"? Revelation 22:12....been waiting 2000 years dude, get a move on, Jesus Christ.

[DramaQueen]

God's years are way longer than ours

[Huggy Bear]

-and good luck with that, sir...lol. You don't believe in the rapture doctrine...so next time someone asks, you can say no.

rapture and rapture doctrine are two different things. The English word "rapture" is derived from the Latin verb "Rapere" meaning "to carry off," or "to catch up." Exactly what the Bible says.

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God's years are way longer than ours

Of course, we all know time is relative...

[The Grand Nudger]

Would you like to explore the usage of this imagery in the text - and the differences between such usage and a doctrine built upon it or the use of the word "rapture" that is connected solely to that doctrine and only leveraged after it's invention, or is this just an opportunity for pious chicanery? I'm entirely uninterested in the latter, if that doesn't immediately jump out at you from my comments.

[vorlon13]

God's years are way longer than ours

Seems odd Jesus didn't remember that.



Hmm, makes one think of Joe Smith for some reason . .