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Prinicipal just made us pray
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RE: Prinicipal just made us pray
In a non private school, there's supposed to be separation of church and state. That's why it's illegal.
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RE: Prinicipal just made us pray
(November 20, 2014 at 4:48 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: How is publically praying in a school illegal. See where I am there are Protestant schools and there are Catholic schools, or in some extremely rare ocassions a mixed school.

Private schools (all religious schools are private in the U.S.) can require prayer. The prohibitions are for public schools and schools payed for with tax dollars only. It's a Constitutional issue. The Constitution say Congress shall pass no law . . What private individuals do is another matter.
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Thank you for the information, makes sense.

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(November 20, 2014 at 4:52 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: What about in the Northern Irish school system case?

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Just out of interest what are you trying to say.

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(November 20, 2014 at 4:57 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Just out of interest what are you trying to say.

I know zip about Irish law.
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That makes two of us. In other words there is no such country as Ireland.

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UK law regarding schools and taxes has always been a bit impenetrable for me, but I suppose that's just a result of being used to our own.
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As far as I can tell there are no real laws about religion in schools.

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(November 20, 2014 at 4:42 pm)Jenny A Wrote: The rules about prayer in school are pretty simple but when students get involved it can become more complex. I summarize the rules as follows:

1) Prayer cannot be required in school not even as a mandatory period for prayer or self-reflection;

2) Prayer cannot be school lead or sponsored;

3) Students can pray in school provided they don't disturb others;

4) Students can pray and/or express religious opinions in school assignments and/or when addressing other students including when addressing other students at assemblies and over the loud-speaker provided that the school purpose for the assignment or the student address is not to have prayer or religious speech and when deciding what assignments to display or who will give an address prayer and religious content is neither encouraged nor forbidden.


It's rule number 4 that sometimes leads to confusion.
If the school required you to pray, rule number one was broken regardless of who lead the prayer. If the student addressing the school decided of his own accord to pray as part of the address, it was probably legal unless the teachers motioned you to or otherwise required you to pray too. If the school choose the student because he/she was going to pray, that too would be illegal. But if the student decided to pray as part of an address that was primarily for another purpose and the staff did not suggest others pray, it was probably legal.

http://www2.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/relig...dance.html
He didn't necessarily force us to. He asked us to get in a circle, and made us close it, and said that we were going to. I think that counts as illegal.
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