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Obama and Ferguson
#71
RE: Obama and Ferguson
(November 29, 2014 at 12:16 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(November 29, 2014 at 11:50 am)Brian37 Wrote: That was NOT strong armed robbery or felony assault. That is no worse than what I have seen in my life. No one is claiming, nor would his parents say that he was right. But because of his skin tone, he is not allowed to make mistakes like light skin people. He is feared by society because of his skin tone.

It is strong armed robbery because Brown uses force to complete his act of theft.

I can totally see this guy tell the cop to fuck off when the cop tells him to get out of the road. I can totally see this guy slamming the door on the cop and then punching the cop. I can totally see this guy daring the cop to shoot and then charging the cop.

Brown was a thug and an asshole and a stupid one on top of that as he got himself killed by cop. I blame Brown for this tragedy and see no reason to blame the cop.

No asshole, you chose to ignore what I told you about my own life. I can tell you what he did is nothing. That was a box of cigars, not diamonds. I saw a WHITE GUY when I worked at a 7-11 steal SEVERAL cartons of cigarettes. He got confronted by our manager and he SHOVED my manager much harder than what you saw in that video.

And again. I have seen street fights and bar fights and frat fights that ended up with blood where no one got arrested at all. I myself assaulted a cop.

Nothing in that video justifies getting killed over. Otherwise there should be tons of dead rednecks and lily white frat boys.

Now you are either an intentional bigot, or you are unaware of your own social conditioning. Would you like me to call you a bigot, because if you keep throwing this bullshit video in my face, I will rightfully call you a bigot. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and have you open your mind as to why your flawed logic leads you to use this. video.

Ball is in your court. Throw this crap in my face again, after I have told you repeatedly having been a store clerk myself, and seeing white people do the same thing, I am going to call you a bigot and an intentional one as well.
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#72
RE: Obama and Ferguson
(November 29, 2014 at 12:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(November 29, 2014 at 12:16 pm)Heywood Wrote: It is strong armed robbery because Brown uses force to complete his act of theft.

I can totally see this guy tell the cop to fuck off when the cop tells him to get out of the road. I can totally see this guy slamming the door on the cop and then punching the cop. I can totally see this guy daring the cop to shoot and then charging the cop.

Brown was a thug and an asshole and a stupid one on top of that as he got himself killed by cop. I blame Brown for this tragedy and see no reason to blame the cop.

No asshole, you chose to ignore what I told you about my own life. I can tell you what he did is nothing. That was a box of cigars, not diamonds. I saw a WHITE GUY when I worked at a 7-11 steal SEVERAL cartons of cigarettes. He got confronted by our manager and he SHOVED my manager much harder than what you saw in that video.

And again. I have seen street fights and bar fights and frat fights that ended up with blood where no one got arrested at all. I myself assaulted a cop.

Nothing in that video justifies getting killed over. Otherwise there should be tons of dead rednecks and lily white frat boys.

Now you are either an intentional bigot, or you are unaware of your own social conditioning. Would you like me to call you a bigot, because if you keep throwing this bullshit video in my face, I will rightfully call you a bigot. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and have you open your mind as to why your flawed logic leads you to use this. video.

Ball is in your court. Throw this crap in my face again, after I have told you repeatedly having been a store clerk myself, and seeing white people do the same thing, I am going to call you a bigot and an intentional one as well.

Brian, the details of your life are inconsequential. You are the bigot because you cannot tolerate a view that it isn't your own. I believe that if the circumstances were exactly the same except Brown was white...Brown is still dead by cop today. Why? Because being a stupid thug and asshole isn't dependent on ones color of skin.

Now go away you bigot....everyone is tired of your 7-11 adventures.
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#73
RE: Obama and Ferguson
(November 29, 2014 at 12:56 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(November 29, 2014 at 12:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No asshole, you chose to ignore what I told you about my own life. I can tell you what he did is nothing. That was a box of cigars, not diamonds. I saw a WHITE GUY when I worked at a 7-11 steal SEVERAL cartons of cigarettes. He got confronted by our manager and he SHOVED my manager much harder than what you saw in that video.

And again. I have seen street fights and bar fights and frat fights that ended up with blood where no one got arrested at all. I myself assaulted a cop.

Nothing in that video justifies getting killed over. Otherwise there should be tons of dead rednecks and lily white frat boys.

Now you are either an intentional bigot, or you are unaware of your own social conditioning. Would you like me to call you a bigot, because if you keep throwing this bullshit video in my face, I will rightfully call you a bigot. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and have you open your mind as to why your flawed logic leads you to use this. video.

Ball is in your court. Throw this crap in my face again, after I have told you repeatedly having been a store clerk myself, and seeing white people do the same thing, I am going to call you a bigot and an intentional one as well.

Brian, the details of your life are inconsequential. You are the bigot because you cannot tolerate a view that it isn't your own. I believe that if the circumstances were exactly the same except Brown was white...Brown is still dead by cop today. Why? Because being a stupid thug and asshole isn't dependent on ones color of skin.

Now go away you bigot....everyone is tired of your 7-11 adventures.

Ok bigot, see now you went from merely being in a position of being unaware to willful ignorance. But considering you talk out of both sides of your mouth on economics as well, this does not surprise me either. Congrats bigot.

I am sure since you are so right in your position, you'd have no problem being face to face with Brown's parents and say the same thing to them. Don't feel bad, I don't think your buddy Wilson would have the guts to face them either.
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#74
RE: Obama and Ferguson
(November 29, 2014 at 1:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Ok bigot, see now you went from merely being in a position of being unaware to willful ignorance. But considering you talk out of both sides of your mouth on economics as well, this does not surprise me either. Congrats bigot.

I am sure since you are so right in your position, you'd have no problem being face to face with Brown's parents and say the same thing to them. Don't feel bad, I don't think your buddy Wilson would have the guts to face them either.

I would have a problem telling Brown parents that their son was a thug and a stupid asshole. Not because it isn't true but they are grieving parents. The last thing they need is to be reminded the son they raised and buried was a failure of a human being. When somebody is down....you don't kick em the teeth.
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#75
RE: Obama and Ferguson
I doubt even if you felt that way now, you would if you actually did it in reality. Talk is cheap. Because if you actually tried part of that would be listening. I doubt seriously you would get away in a face to face explanation to Brown's parents by using the word "thug". But if you are so sure you are right, give it a shot. You cant even listen to me here so I doubt you'd ever have the guts to do it in reality.

I can see it now. You "Yea Mr & Mrs Brown, your son was a thug and he deserved to die". Go ahead buddy, try it since you are so right.
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#76
RE: Obama and Ferguson
(November 29, 2014 at 1:14 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I doubt even if you felt that way now, you would if you actually did it in reality. Talk is cheap.

If I meet Browns parents, I wouldn't try to engage in some discussion about their son's crimes and his utter stupidity. I would merely tell them that I am sorry for their loss and leave it at that. I'm sure they see their son in a much better light than I see him....why try to spoil that picture for them? What purpose would it serve?

To be honest....you are a dick for even suggesting it.
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#77
RE: Obama and Ferguson
(November 29, 2014 at 1:18 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(November 29, 2014 at 1:14 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I doubt even if you felt that way now, you would if you actually did it in reality. Talk is cheap.

If I meet Browns parents, I wouldn't try to engage in some discussion about their son's crimes. I would merely tell them that I am sorry for their loss and leave it at that. I'm sure they see their son in a much better light than I see him....why try to spoil that picture for them? What purpose would it serve?

To be honest....you are a dick for even suggesting it.
Nope you just called him a thug, now if you are not willing to use that word in your explanation to them, that says to me, you HAVE BEEN socially conditioned to think that way.

Now if you were serious about doing that you should have no fear using the word "thug" to their face. And on top of using the word "thug" to their face it would also require YOU shutting up and actually listening to them as to why, regardless of what he did, they would explain to you he was simply a kid who did something stupid and not a "thug".

Nope, you would simply do all the talking and would not be the slightest bit interested in how they feel as parents.
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#78
RE: Obama and Ferguson
(November 29, 2014 at 1:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(November 29, 2014 at 1:18 pm)Heywood Wrote: If I meet Browns parents, I wouldn't try to engage in some discussion about their son's crimes. I would merely tell them that I am sorry for their loss and leave it at that. I'm sure they see their son in a much better light than I see him....why try to spoil that picture for them? What purpose would it serve?

To be honest....you are a dick for even suggesting it.
Nope you just called him a thug, now if you are not willing to use that word in your explanation to them, that says to me, you HAVE BEEN socially conditioned to think that way.

Now if you were serious about doing that you should have no fear using the word "thug" to their face. And on top of using the word "thug" to their face it would also require YOU shutting up and actually listening to them as to why, regardless of what he did, they would explain to you he was simply a kid who did something stupid and not a "thug".

Nope, you would simply do all the talking and would not be the slightest bit interested in how they feel as parents.

There is a difference between fear and restraint.....dummy.

Again you are a dick for suggesting that we go up to Brown's parents and tell them we think their son was a shitty human being. Let em grieve in peace.
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#79
RE: Obama and Ferguson
When light skin people do the same things they do not end up dead as much. When light skin people do the same types of things, they are simply stupid youths who are troubled. When dark toned males do it, idiots like you call them "thugs".

(November 29, 2014 at 1:26 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(November 29, 2014 at 1:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Nope you just called him a thug, now if you are not willing to use that word in your explanation to them, that says to me, you HAVE BEEN socially conditioned to think that way.

Now if you were serious about doing that you should have no fear using the word "thug" to their face. And on top of using the word "thug" to their face it would also require YOU shutting up and actually listening to them as to why, regardless of what he did, they would explain to you he was simply a kid who did something stupid and not a "thug".

Nope, you would simply do all the talking and would not be the slightest bit interested in how they feel as parents.

There is a difference between fear and restraint.....dummy.

Again you are a dick for suggesting that we go up to Brown's parents and tell them we think their son was a shitty human being. Let em grieve in peace.

I am not the one who just called their dead son a "thug" would you like me to point out YOU calling their dead son a "thug"?

Why would you call someone a "thug" if you didn't think they were a "shitty human being"?

Talking out of both sides of your mouth again.
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#80
RE: Obama and Ferguson
(November 29, 2014 at 1:27 pm)Brian37 Wrote: When light skin people do the same things they do not end up dead as much. When light skin people do the same types of things, they are simply stupid youths who are troubled. When dark toned males do it, idiots like you call them "thugs".

If Brown was white....I'd still call him a thug.

The problem with our society is people like you have used the power of government to destroy African american communities and then hypocritically pander to them about how they are getting screwed just to garner their votes. Ghetto's and broken homes are consequence of government interference and not discrimination.
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