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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 13, 2014 at 1:13 am
(December 12, 2014 at 10:18 pm)Sionnach Wrote: This is regarding the same billboard.
Quote:An ex-gay group’s billboard, which claims to feature identical twins with different sexualities, is actually two photos of the same gay man.
Christian anti-gay group Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays launched a billboard in Richmond, Virginia featuring pictures of two identical men, claiming: “Identical twins. One gay, one not. We believe twins research studies show NOBODY IS BORN GAY”.
However, it turns out that far from being twins, the billboard is actually two pictures of the same man – and he’s gay, and does not even have a twin brother.
Stock image model Kyle Roux – who sat for the photos several years ago – reached out to NBC after seeing the story online.
He said: “I was obviously quite shocked, so that why I decided to send you guys an email saying hey, I’m that guy in that billboard.
“It just seems like there no place in today’s world for an organization that is promoting this as being some kind of deviant or distasteful lifestyle, because I’ve lived my life openly gay and happy for my entire life.”
However, PFOX board member Chris Doyle sees no issue with the ad.
He said: “The issue isn’t the photo on the billboard, but the actual science.
“PFOX supports the rights of everyone who wants to pursue that for themselves.”
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/12/12/twi...d-hes-gay/
My irony meter busted at the bit I highlighted. Where can I get a new one?
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 13, 2014 at 1:18 am
(December 13, 2014 at 1:13 am)robvalue Wrote: (December 12, 2014 at 10:18 pm)Sionnach Wrote: This is regarding the same billboard.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/12/12/twi...d-hes-gay/
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 13, 2014 at 1:22 am
 I love it when fundamentalist morons try to talk about science. Our best efforts could never make them look that stupid.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 13, 2014 at 1:39 am
(December 13, 2014 at 1:22 am)robvalue Wrote: I love it when fundamentalist morons try to talk about science. Our best efforts could never make them look that stupid.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 13, 2014 at 8:42 am
(December 12, 2014 at 9:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (December 12, 2014 at 5:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Isn't that if one is born gay, the other has a 50% chance or some high number of being gay as well. Which is too show it's partially genetic. Anyone have confirmation on this? I'm not aware of any research into that, but a couple of posts after yours we learn that the billboard in the OP is a fake.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 13, 2014 at 9:12 am
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(December 11, 2014 at 5:17 pm)Sionnach Wrote: Quote:A group claiming to advocate for "ex-gays" has purchased a billboard along a busy Virginia highway proclaiming that "Nobody is born gay," reports Richmond TV station WWBT.
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PFOX is a nonprofit organization which claims that people can choose not to be gay, stating on its website that "people deserve to know the truth about the many men, women, and children who have made the decision to change their lives" and "overcome same-sex attraction." Founded in 1998, PFOX proudly announces it "was created specifically to be an alternative to the misinformed gay family groups which insist that parents only prove their love for their gay child if they support gay rights and affirm their child's self-proclaimed gay identity. PFOX teaches parents that it's ok to love their children without placing any conditions on that love."
http://www.advocate.com/ex-gay-therapy/2...y-born-gay
According to the dickheads:
1) Everybody is a born sinner
2) Gays are sinners
Hence,
3) Everybody is born gay.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 13, 2014 at 10:16 am
(December 13, 2014 at 9:12 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: (December 11, 2014 at 5:17 pm)Sionnach Wrote: http://www.advocate.com/ex-gay-therapy/2...y-born-gay
According to the dickheads:
1) Everybody is a born sinner
2) Gays are sinners
Hence,
3) Everybody is born gay.
Let the gay and lesbian orgies of eternity in hell begin.
might as well were all sinners were no good people and we are scum compared to god why be in his presence or why should we be in his presence if he thinks so little of us.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 13, 2014 at 12:25 pm
Damn, I just watched an episode of QandA with Lawrence Krauss and Gene Robinson, and Gene was asked how he reconciles being a Christian bishop and a homosexual. It's buried within the 60 minute episode, and I couldn't find just the clip of that part. He had a really good answer. He said when the bible says a man shouldn't lay with another man, it doesn't mean it in the way we understand it today; as a committed, loving relationship. Damn it, he put it so much better than I can right now. Someone find that clip.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 13, 2014 at 12:30 pm
(December 11, 2014 at 6:02 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (December 11, 2014 at 5:55 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Being homosexual is a deficiency? Yes. It is contrary to the natural order, since the defining desires of homosexuality are directed away from the proper use of human sexuality. I guess Chad is one of those weird Christians who only fucked his wife on rare occasions for the sake of bearing children.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 13, 2014 at 12:46 pm
(December 13, 2014 at 12:30 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I guess Chad is one of those weird Christians who only fucked his wife on rare occasions for the sake of bearing children.
. . . while quoting Aquinas. 
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