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So...We're Expecting Al-Qaeda to Build Cruise Missiles?
#31
RE: So...We're Expecting Al-Qaeda to Build Cruise Missiles?
Quote:Miller was found shot to death in April,

How ironic.

Nonetheless, the decision stood.
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#32
RE: So...We're Expecting Al-Qaeda to Build Cruise Missiles?
(December 21, 2014 at 12:43 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Miller was found shot to death in April,

How ironic.

Nonetheless, the decision stood.

Yeah but I think your giving too much credit too arms dealers the country has so many shooting deaths and gun toting rednecks because of racism (there's no country more racist then the USA) and the fear based media which actually predates FOX news

Haven't you seen Bowling for Columbine yet?

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#33
RE: So...We're Expecting Al-Qaeda to Build Cruise Missiles?
(December 21, 2014 at 12:43 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Miller was found shot to death in April,

How ironic.

Not particularly. Miller was a bank robber. He testified against his bank robber buddies. They killed him for it.

(December 21, 2014 at 12:43 am)Minimalist Wrote: Nonetheless, the decision stood.

Well, duh, it's pretty easy to get an affirmative decision when there's no defense, and the prosecutor lies.

I have no particular problem with NFA 34, but to say the case was logical when the prosecutor lied about NFA 34 being a revenue-generating law (it costs more to administer than the tax revenue raised), and there's no defense is a bit silly.

The decision itself is entirely different from how the decision was arrived at.
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#34
RE: So...We're Expecting Al-Qaeda to Build Cruise Missiles?
(December 20, 2014 at 10:38 am)Alice Wrote: The additional spotting distance from the horizon doesn't apply... if a cruise missile is coming: we should know that by the time it gets within 500 miles of us (if not well before that). It doesn't even apply to subs from well within that range: we have sensors in the water like crazy... and a blimp high in the sky isn't going to do shit about it.

* Alice feels the paranoia gnawing at her, ignores it.

Can we not just chalk it up to either domestic observation or corporations getting us spending money 'because'?

This is right and wrong. OTH radar could spot the cruise missile, but it is generally inaccurate for guidance, which would be required for hitting a weapon flying at 450kts or so. It generally relies upon good atmospheric conditions in order to propogate and reflect properly, as well. Additionally, because cruise missiles fly very low, they can be routed to take advantage of terrain in order to mask them from ground-based radar sets, even OTH types.

An airborne set, however, would have a much larger scanning area while still relying on much more reliable, and accurate, line-of-site radar methodology. According to

The Army states that the blimps do not carry any cameras or sigint collectors. Could they be lying? Of course. But the military rationale seems reasonable, even if the threat -- and expenditure responding to it -- is overdone.

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#35
RE: So...We're Expecting Al-Qaeda to Build Cruise Missiles?
Am I the only one who is surprised that a domino rally of nuclear missile firing hasn't already happened, for some reason or other? I heard it came very close once due to a radar malfunction or something.
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#36
RE: So...We're Expecting Al-Qaeda to Build Cruise Missiles?
Sept 26th, 1983-just past midnight. A malfunction in the soviet early warning satellite system causes the alarms under the watch of one Stanislov Petrov (on call that day - not scheduled to be there) to fire off. A missile has been launched from the US, and is headed towards the Soviet Union. Petrov decides that it must be an error, the US wouldn't launch a single missile. Then it showed a second missile. A third, a fourth, and a fifth. He waited, then decided not to issue the alarm that could have terminated in a retaliatory strike from the soviets.

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RE: So...We're Expecting Al-Qaeda to Build Cruise Missiles?
(December 21, 2014 at 12:43 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Miller was found shot to death in April,

How ironic.

Nonetheless, the decision stood.

The Miller decision stands out as the only one supporting 'militia' as the governing term.
All of the other SCOTUS decisions interpret the Second Amendment as an individual right, consistent with all of the other individual rights or more generally as limitations on government, not the individual.
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#38
RE: So...We're Expecting Al-Qaeda to Build Cruise Missiles?
As I noted earlier, it is plausible the Pentagon would misplace some cruise missiles and al-Qaeda could snag them.

It also occurs to me the republicans might sell al-Qaeda some cruise missiles to make a buck. And there might be some democrats that might want to give al-Qaeda some missiles so they can protect themselves from ISIS.

So we probably do want some defense oriented towards them having some missiles.

Not that it would work however . . .

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#39
RE: So...We're Expecting Al-Qaeda to Build Cruise Missiles?
If I were a conspiricist I'd say that we've probably already lost/sold/gifted some cruise missiles...now we're buying party balloons in case they get returned to us...lol.
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RE: So...We're Expecting Al-Qaeda to Build Cruise Missiles?
(December 21, 2014 at 9:52 am)Rhythm Wrote: Sept 26th, 1983-just past midnight. A malfunction in the soviet early warning satellite system causes the alarms under the watch of one Stanislov Petrov (on call that day - not scheduled to be there) to fire off. A missile has been launched from the US, and is headed towards the Soviet Union. Petrov decides that it must be an error, the US wouldn't launch a single missile. Then it showed a second missile. A third, a fourth, and a fifth. He waited, then decided not to issue the alarm that could have terminated in a retaliatory strike from the soviets.

Balls of steel.

And since military brass is all about orders and rather stupid, he got punished for not retaliating and following reason instead.
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