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RE: A simple challenge for atheists
January 9, 2015 at 9:39 pm
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As opposed to god, or "no-thing"? "God is immaterial" :waves hands:. You know...it's probably not quite that easy, eh?
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RE: A simple challenge for atheists
January 9, 2015 at 9:41 pm
(January 9, 2015 at 7:57 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: As far as something from nothing goes, atheism is a lack of belief in deities. That's it.
So the question then is, can a material thing in our universe come into existence from nothing without God putting it there?
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RE: A simple challenge for atheists
January 9, 2015 at 9:41 pm
(January 9, 2015 at 9:41 pm)bob96 Wrote: (January 9, 2015 at 7:57 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: As far as something from nothing goes, atheism is a lack of belief in deities. That's it.
So the question then is, can a material thing in our universe come into existence from nothing without God putting it there? Holy simplicity!
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RE: A simple challenge for atheists
January 9, 2015 at 9:42 pm
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(January 9, 2015 at 9:41 pm)bob96 Wrote: (January 9, 2015 at 7:57 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: As far as something from nothing goes, atheism is a lack of belief in deities. That's it.
So the question then is, can a material thing in our universe come into existence from nothing without God putting it there?
If god is no thing then how do you know it is capable of putting any thing any where?
(January 9, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: (January 9, 2015 at 9:41 pm)bob96 Wrote: So the question then is, can a material thing in our universe come into existence from nothing without God putting it there? Holy simplicity!
You forgot to say batman.
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RE: A simple challenge for atheists
January 9, 2015 at 9:45 pm
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(January 9, 2015 at 9:41 pm)bob96 Wrote: So the question then is, can a material thing in our universe come into existence from nothing without God putting it there? Can it come into existence -with- "god" -putting it there-? How might that be accomplished? Following Losty's lead, if god is no thing, how -can- some thing come from no thing?
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RE: A simple challenge for atheists
January 9, 2015 at 9:45 pm
(January 9, 2015 at 8:10 pm)Alex K Wrote: (January 9, 2015 at 7:33 pm)bob96 Wrote: Imagine an alternate universe which contains a single hydrogen atom. (Lets not include dark matter or other forces in the discussion for the purpose of simplicity.) You could replace the atom with a proton, a neutron, a sub-atomic particle, or a string. The point is, it's real. It can be measured.
Now where did this hydrogen atom come from?
Was it just always there?
Did it spontaneously appear, ie. magically?
Did someone create it?
How did it come into being?
How should I or anyone know where stuff comes from in your fantasy alternate universe which you just made up??? That's a nonsensical question. Can you try to reword it or emprecision it a bit to make it answerable?
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ok, good point.
Can some material thing come into *our* universe from nothing without God putting it there?
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RE: A simple challenge for atheists
January 9, 2015 at 9:49 pm
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Is god in our universe? How did -he- get here? That might give you some suggestion as to how other things got here.
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RE: A simple challenge for atheists
January 9, 2015 at 9:50 pm
(January 9, 2015 at 9:49 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Is god in our universe?
He exists as a figment, concept, in the minds of believers. Does that count as being in our universe?
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RE: A simple challenge for atheists
January 9, 2015 at 9:54 pm
I don't think there is such thing as nowhere in the cosmos.
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RE: A simple challenge for atheists
January 9, 2015 at 9:57 pm
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