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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 3:27 pm
And lo! YHWH did stir the waters of the deeps, and the surface of the Earth, and did cleverly place fossils and geologic strata in Layers; and cuased the molecular structure of those Layers to conform to those characteristics which they would have if they were in fact Ancient; even millions of years old did they appear to be. And YHWH caused the light of distant SAtars to travel faster than the speed of light, so as to appear Billions and Billions of years old, so as to confuse the very elect, if this were possible.
And YHWH sat back and laughed at the silly humans who had fallen for his clever trap, and did reward those who were Too Fucking Stupid to interpret the Signs which he had left, by giving their lips eternal access to Hank's Ass. But those who had used their minds to determine the cleverly-falsified Age of the Universe, these YHWH did smite with eternal damnation, forcing them into sexual degradation and the playing of Evil Music, and all sorts of abominations and corruption.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 3:28 pm
(January 14, 2015 at 12:53 am)Nope Wrote: What if someone is illiterate? They can't study the scriptures.
All the bible is is a 3rd person account of a relationship with God. It hardly a shadow of the actual experience. That's what belief is about... a real reltionship with the divine.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 3:31 pm
(January 14, 2015 at 3:28 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (January 14, 2015 at 12:53 am)Nope Wrote: What if someone is illiterate? They can't study the scriptures.
All the bible is is a 3rd person account of a relationship with God. It hardly a shadow of the actual experience. That's what belief is about... a real reltionship with the divine.
And that's why all the people who have personal relationships with the Divine are in perfect harmony and agreement with one-another.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 6:06 pm
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2015 at 6:08 pm by Lek.)
(January 14, 2015 at 1:17 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Bullshit! I've provided you links from the LDS themselves explaining that they are unequivocally Christians who worship and follow Christ. Just because you choose to ignore it doesn't make it untrue.
Also, we've had this discussion ad nauseum because you've started three of the same fucking thread. If you say you know President Obama, and you tell me he's an old fat white guy, then you don't know him. Just saying you follow Jesus and then describing him as someone that he's not doesn't make one a christian. The christian faith has been passed down through the ages and it never held that Jesus was a created being who is the brother of Lucifer. If they hold to that belief, they are not christians.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 6:19 pm
(January 14, 2015 at 6:06 pm)Lek Wrote: (January 14, 2015 at 1:17 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Bullshit! I've provided you links from the LDS themselves explaining that they are unequivocally Christians who worship and follow Christ. Just because you choose to ignore it doesn't make it untrue.
Also, we've had this discussion ad nauseum because you've started three of the same fucking thread. If you say you know President Obama, and you tell me he's an old fat white guy, then you don't know him. Just saying you follow Jesus and then describing him as someone that he's not doesn't make one a christian. The christian faith has been passed down through the ages and it never held that Jesus was a created being who is the brother of Lucifer. If they hold to that belief, they are not christians.
Says who? You? Why do you get to decide what a true Christian is?
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 6:26 pm
(January 14, 2015 at 6:19 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (January 14, 2015 at 6:06 pm)Lek Wrote: If you say you know President Obama, and you tell me he's an old fat white guy, then you don't know him. Just saying you follow Jesus and then describing him as someone that he's not doesn't make one a christian. The christian faith has been passed down through the ages and it never held that Jesus was a created being who is the brother of Lucifer. If they hold to that belief, they are not christians.
Says who? You? Why do you get to decide what a true Christian is?
That's my opinion and it's been the opinion of the christian churches throughout the ages. If you want to call them christians, go ahead. God knows our hearts and I don't. I wouldn't make a judgement on whether or not they have salvation.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 6:33 pm
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(January 14, 2015 at 6:26 pm)Lek Wrote: (January 14, 2015 at 6:19 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Says who? You? Why do you get to decide what a true Christian is?
That's my opinion and it's been the opinion of the christian churches throughout the ages. If you want to call them christians, go ahead. God knows our hearts and I don't. I wouldn't make a judgement on whether or not they have salvation.
Obviously not all of them have held that opinion. From LDS.org (bold mine):
Quote:Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints unequivocally affirm themselves to be Christians. They worship God the Eternal Father in the name of Jesus Christ. When asked what the Latter-day Saints believe, Joseph Smith put Christ at the center: “The fundamental principles of our religion is the testimony of the apostles and prophets concerning Jesus Christ, ‘that he died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended up into heaven;’ and all other things are only appendages to these, which pertain to our religion.”1 The modern-day Quorum of the Twelve Apostles reaffirmed that testimony when they proclaimed, “Jesus is the Living Christ, the immortal Son of God. … His way is the path that leads to happiness in this life and eternal life in the world to come.”
https://www.lds.org/topics/christians?lang=eng
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 7:02 pm
(January 14, 2015 at 6:33 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (January 14, 2015 at 6:26 pm)Lek Wrote: That's my opinion and it's been the opinion of the christian churches throughout the ages. If you want to call them christians, go ahead. God knows our hearts and I don't. I wouldn't make a judgement on whether or not they have salvation.
Obviously not all of them have held that opinion. From LDS.org (bold mine):
Quote:Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints unequivocally affirm themselves to be Christians. They worship God the Eternal Father in the name of Jesus Christ. When asked what the Latter-day Saints believe, Joseph Smith put Christ at the center: “The fundamental principles of our religion is the testimony of the apostles and prophets concerning Jesus Christ, ‘that he died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended up into heaven;’ and all other things are only appendages to these, which pertain to our religion.”1 The modern-day Quorum of the Twelve Apostles reaffirmed that testimony when they proclaimed, “Jesus is the Living Christ, the immortal Son of God. … His way is the path that leads to happiness in this life and eternal life in the world to come.”
https://www.lds.org/topics/christians?lang=eng
If you notice they don't claim that Jesus is God incarnate. That's the heart of it.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 7:14 pm
Because you think that jesus is god. Others are and have been content to call him Christ. Doesn't make much sense to say that a person who believes in Jesus Christ....doesn't believe in Jesus Christ...does it?
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 7:16 pm
(January 14, 2015 at 7:02 pm)Lek Wrote: (January 14, 2015 at 6:33 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Obviously not all of them have held that opinion. From LDS.org (bold mine):
https://www.lds.org/topics/christians?lang=eng
If you notice they don't claim that Jesus is God incarnate. That's the heart of it.
Because YOU say so!
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